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DaveRam

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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2008, 09:33:13 AM »

It's interesting that Paul's rockers seem not to be getting a mention so far , are they less cringeworthy ?
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2008, 12:44:24 PM »

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It's interesting that Paul's rockers seem not to be getting a mention so far , are they less cringeworthy ?

You mean like "Give Ireland Back To The Irish?"  (bigeyes1)
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2008, 01:08:28 PM »

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I think thats a really good point Sandra about Paul been more subtle when sending a message.

"Come and Get It," written in 1969 at about the time The Beatles internal disputes over Allen Klein and other matters were really getting nasty, may be an open letter to John:

If you want it, here it is
Come and get it
Make your mind up fast

If you want it anytime I can give it
But you better hurry 'cause it may not last

Did I hear you say that there must be a catch?
Will you walk away from a fool and his money?

If you want it, here it is
Come and get it
But you better hurry 'cause it's going fast

If you want it, here it is
Come and get it
Make your mind up fast

If you want it anytime I can give it
But you'd better hurry 'cause it may not last

Did I hear you say that there must be a catch?
Will you walk away from a fool and his money?

Sonny, if you want it, here it is
Come and get it
But you'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast
You'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast

Woo, fool that is money

Sorry, if you want it, here it is
Come and get it
But you'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast
You'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast
You'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast



It's not especially subtle, though, I suppose.  :)
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2008, 02:28:08 PM »

Paul can do rockers just fine, that's probably why none have really been mentioned. I love 'Give Ireland Back To The Irish' by the way....lol
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2008, 02:53:16 PM »

I think "We All Stand Together" is one of the best songs that Paul ever wrote.

And yes, I'm dead serious.
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2008, 11:34:10 PM »

Famous Groupies.. one of the most macca cringeworthy song of all time i think.
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2008, 01:44:24 AM »

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"Come and Get It," written in 1969 at about the time The Beatles internal disputes over Allen Klein and other matters were really getting nasty, may be an open letter to John:

If you want it, here it is
Come and get it
Make your mind up fast

If you want it anytime I can give it
But you better hurry 'cause it may not last

Did I hear you say that there must be a catch?
Will you walk away from a fool and his money?

If you want it, here it is
Come and get it
But you better hurry 'cause it's going fast

If you want it, here it is
Come and get it
Make your mind up fast

If you want it anytime I can give it
But you'd better hurry 'cause it may not last

Did I hear you say that there must be a catch?
Will you walk away from a fool and his money?

Sonny, if you want it, here it is
Come and get it
But you'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast
You'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast

Woo, fool that is money

Sorry, if you want it, here it is
Come and get it
But you'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast
You'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast
You'd better hurry 'cause it's going fast



It's not especially subtle, though, I suppose.  :)
Compared to songs in which John is sending a message, it's extremely subtle. I just think Paul is deeper than given credit for. He's no dummy. I think a lot of people miss that about him (not at DM's, but in general) and think he's just some shallow happy go lucky guy and Lennon was the only deep thinker in that partnership. I think Paul was every bit his equal in terms of intelligence and talent. He just chose to project a nice guy image and Lennon went out of his way to be controversial and artsy. So of course that's what people go with. When you think about it, John was actually a better PR guy than Paul in that he was able to create this god like genius image for himself. He always said he hated it when people perceived him as such, but he really fed right into it. And I think he knew exactly what he was doing.
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2008, 05:05:40 AM »

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Compared to songs in which John is sending a message, it's extremely subtle. I just think Paul is deeper than given credit for. He's no dummy. I think a lot of people miss that about him (not at DM's, but in general) and think he's just some shallow happy go lucky guy and Lennon was the only deep thinker in that partnership. I think Paul was every bit his equal in terms of intelligence and talent. He just chose to project a nice guy image and Lennon went out of his way to be controversial and artsy. So of course that's what people go with. When you think about it, John was actually a better PR guy than Paul in that he was able to create this god like genius image for himself. He always said he hated it when people perceived him as such, but he really fed right into it. And I think he knew exactly what he was doing.

The media cliches about everyone are usually awful; John's current image as the sappy prophet of universal peace and brotherhood is almost as obnoxious as Paul's image as the lightweight crowd pleaser and nearly as wrongheaded. There is an iota or two of truth in both of those cliches, but they're more substitutes for thinking amongst the lazy than they are useful descriptions, even of the simplest kind.

And you're absolutely right about both of them being excellent PR guys who knew how to play the media. It might also be worth adding, too, that Paul's decision to be the diplomatic, "normal" alternative to John was in fact a far greater act of rebellion against convention, rock and roll style, than was John's choice to conform to what was, after all, the usual rock and roll type: loud rebel.  :)
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2008, 03:21:06 AM »

i love silly love songs and a wonderful christmas time ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2008, 05:47:21 PM »

I can`t agree with some of the comments above. It is Paul who always knows what he is doing. The only mistake was Heather. He is a very down-to-earth guy, he knows what he wants, and what he is after. This is one of the reasons why George refused to play with him after they disbanded, as Paul always pulled the blanket to himself, and, i think, John just didn`t care, he was a more above-the-earth guy. In 1974 George admitted that he`d " join a band with John Lennon any day, but he couldn`t join a band with Paul McCartney". Besides, George also spoke about the fact of McCartney/Martin consortium which was so dominant on the last Beatles sessions. No doubt, Paul is very charming, clever, talented. But he follows his head, while John followed his heart.
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2008, 06:05:45 PM »

"A Wonderful Christmas Time"..........yuk-O!!!!  And I like "Silly Love Songs" just for the bass...........Macca kicks butt with the bass in that song.
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2008, 06:09:50 PM »

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"I like "Silly Love Songs" just for the bass...........Macca kicks butt with the bass in that song.

I want to throw in a plug on behalf of "Silly Love Songs," too: it would be a better song if it were a minute and a half shorter, but it's a good lazy summer afternoon song and I quite like the sentiment.  :)

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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2008, 07:11:55 PM »

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I want to throw in a plug on behalf of "Silly Love Songs," too: it would be a better song if it were a minute and a half shorter, but it's a good lazy summer afternoon song and I quite like the sentiment.  :)


i think it has a really great intro, those chords he plays really gets me, is it normal as you get older to start to like the things you wouldn't give the time of day to when you were a teenager ? i swear i used to tear into boybands and manufactured pop for being cheesey but even silly love songs takes the biscuit.

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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2008, 07:33:25 PM »

^^^^^^^Yep, fender, when you get older, your taste in music and such changes.  
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2008, 08:26:43 PM »

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is it normal as you get older to start to like the things you wouldn't give the time of day to when you were a teenager ?

Absolutely; or at any rate it's certainly been true in my case: half the stuff I used to listen to when I was sixteen makes me cringe now, and other people I used to feel smugly superior to sound pretty good. Judgments change.

But feel free to go on slamming boy bands; I can't imagine any circumstance (or state of intoxication) in which any of them would sound much good.  8)

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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #55 on: July 07, 2008, 09:32:10 PM »

... We all stand together! (pom pom)...
Love it!!! I even tolerate Rupert the thoroughly wet and weedy bear! I made my kids watch this and read the book until they loved it as I do (or they wouldn't get any dinner).(frog)
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #56 on: July 07, 2008, 09:32:41 PM »

Out of those three, I enjoy Silly Love Songs the most.

This is from an email that Tim Hinkley sent to me about his memories of Jimmy and SLS is mentioned.

"Jimmy's 30 day jail term was freaky. He had purchaseda Rolls Royce and had so many drunk driving offencesthat they finally gave him the jail term. He was inPentonville and we used to take him food. In thosedays you were allowed to include a half bottle of wineif you took a prisoner a meal ! I remember Jimmy saying how he could hear the strains of a Wings song(might have been Silly Love Songs) eminating from thelocal pub on Pentonville High Road. Jimmy had a bigcushion on the drivers seat of the Roller and I alwayshad this vision of him speeding past a cop car and thecops saying to each other, "hey, there's a little kiddriving that rolls royce, blimey, I think he's drunk!"
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #57 on: July 07, 2008, 10:08:13 PM »

But off the beaten path of these three songs............I "cringe" when I hear "My Love"..............as John would say, "Sappy Paul love song".............however.............."Maybe I'm Amazed" live on the "Wings Over America" LP is the "bomb".  Any remarks????
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2008, 02:45:31 AM »

^^^ "Maybe I'm Amazed" is one of Paul's half dozen best solo songs, direct and "honest" in John's sense of the word in a way most of his solo output is not. It's all about Linda, of course. The best version is on McCartney, I think.  :)
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Re: Best Cringeworthy Song ?
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2008, 03:28:44 AM »

No, Geoff, I like the "live" version of it better.  It ROCKS!!!!
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