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Mairi

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Re: The vatican 'Forgives' lennon!
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2008, 04:44:24 PM »

George was baptised and had his Confirmation. I'm pretty sure Paul was raised Catholic, but he'd more likely be Irish Catholic than Roman Catholic, I think.
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Re: The vatican 'Forgives' lennon!
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2008, 10:42:15 AM »

was there something to forgive in the first place?
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Re: The vatican 'Forgives' lennon!
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2008, 12:33:32 AM »

look i don't think it ought to be blasphamy, just saying Johava!  :P
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Re: Vatican says it is sorry!!!
« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2010, 02:24:24 PM »

It took the Vatican 400 years to apologise for imprisioning Gallilao because he said the earth revolved around the sun, so I guess 40 years is pretty fast by papal standards.
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Re: Vatican says it is sorry!!!
« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2010, 02:52:24 PM »

It took the Vatican 400 years to apologise for imprisioning Gallilao because he said the earth revolved around the sun, so I guess 40 years is pretty fast by papal standards.
Apologize? Nah. They only expressed regrets. mind you.
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Re: Vatican says it is sorry!!!
« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2010, 04:48:34 PM »

I hope that someday in the future they'll apologize for their ongoing campaigns for unsafe sex and the discrimination of homosexuals.
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Re: Vatican says it is sorry!!!
« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2010, 08:09:45 PM »

Ringo Starr: 'Vatican has more to talk about than the Beatles'By Phil Han, CNN
April 12, 2010 12:54 p.m. EDT

London, England (CNN) -- The Vatican may have forgiven the Beatles over the weekend for their "satanic" messages -- but Ringo Starr, the legendary band's drummer, says he couldn't care less.

In a tribute published to mark the 40th anniversary of the breakup of the band, who singer John Lennon once claimed were "more popular than Jesus," the Vatican newspaper "L'Osservatore Romano" said it had forgiven them and called them a "precious jewel."

But Starr told CNN: "Didn't the Vatican say we were satanic or possibly satanic -- and they've still forgiven us? I think the Vatican, they've got more to talk about than the Beatles."


Source: http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/04/12/ringo.starr.vatican.beatles/
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Re: The vatican 'Forgives' lennon!
« Reply #68 on: April 13, 2010, 11:50:36 AM »

i think the present pope condemned the beatles as satanic as recently as the 80s. the eagles too.
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you know . . . pope benedict . . . . the one who was in the nazi party as a kid. yeah he joined hitler youth
those were "different times" and i'm kindof a tradtionalist but . . 'former nazi' looks so bad on a pope resume   ha2ha :o :-X
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Re: The vatican 'Forgives' lennon!
« Reply #69 on: April 13, 2010, 11:56:45 AM »


you know . . . pope benedict . . . . the one who was in the nazi party as a kid. yeah he joined hitler youth
those were "different times" and i'm kindof a tradtionalist but . . 'former nazi' looks so bad on a pope resume   ha2ha :o :-X

I'm not a fan of the pope, but you have to be precise. In those days (1939 and later), boys in Germany of his age were forced to join Hitler Youth.
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Re: The vatican 'Forgives' lennon!
« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2010, 12:15:47 PM »

I'm definately not a fan of the pope either, but you can't blame him for having been in the Hitler Jugend.

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Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth but was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings.[7] His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith. In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and killed during the Aktion T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics.[8] In 1943, while still in seminary, he was drafted into the German anti-aircraft corps as Luftwaffenhelfer.[7] Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry, but a subsequent illness precluded him from the usual rigours of military duty. As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he deserted back to his family's home in Traunstein after his unit had ceased to exist, just as American troops established their headquarters in the Ratzinger household. As a German soldier, he was put in a POW camp but was released a few months later at the end of the war in the summer of 1945. He reentered the seminary, along with his brother Georg, in November of that year.
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Re: The vatican 'Forgives' lennon!
« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2010, 12:10:49 AM »

well thanks joost and bobber, i did present that kind of unfairly
though that's what i meant when i said 'those were different times' . .
and regardless of the circumstance, it's still not a good look for a pope
i'm not a fan either
i have family in the clergy and i know all about this political little weasly co-conspiritor . . . was that biased enough?  ha2ha
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anyway, on a side note - here's the quote i was referring to where he singles out the beatles. lol - 1996 !!!
  just . . back away from the floyd slowwwwwwly
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From the Times, 25Th Nov 1996.

Cardinal condemns pop devil music

FROM RICHARD OWEN IN ROME

ONE of the Roman Catholic world's most powerful figures
has branded rock music an "instrument of the Devil" and
urged young people not to listen to it for fear of
endangering their souls.

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, head of the modern successor
to the Inquisition, said there were "diabolical and
satanic messages" in much of today's heavy metal music.
But he also warned the young against the "subliminal"
satanic influence to be found in songs by such groups
as the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Queen,
Led Zeppelin and the Eagles.

Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregration for
the Doctrine of the Faith, is considered the highest
moral authority in the Vatican after the Pope, at whose
side he has been for almost all of the latter's 18-year
reign. His stern admonishment and even excommunication
of dissident theologians has earned him a fearsome
reputation.

Speaking yesterday at a Mass marking the feast of St
Cecilia, the patron saint of music, Cardinal Ratzinger
agreed that there were many good things in modern pop
music, but added that there was also a great deal that
"endangers the human soul". He urged heavy metal bands
in particular to "purify themselves".

Vatican officials identified some of the "worst
offenders" as Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath and AC/DC,
whose initials they claimed referred not to alternating
current or even bisexuality, but to the satanic phrase
"Anti-Christ, Death to Christ".
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