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McCartney's basses/guitars
« on: November 30, 2008, 12:22:04 PM »

soooooooooo, I have a thread with John's guitars and now I want to make thread with Paul's basses. also IMO greatest bass-guitarist (not technically, but his riffs are the best)

so yeah here some basses and guitars used by legendary James Paul "Macca" McCartney, world's greatest and most influenced bass-guitarist and greatest multi-instrumentalist.

Zenith Model 17 acoustic



McCartney House Guitar



Rosetti Solid 7




Hofner Club 40



Hofner 500/1 (yeah, the same soul of McCartney's basses)





1963s Hofner 500/1





1964s Epiphone Texan FT-79 acoustic ("yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away...")



1962s Epiphone Casino





John with Paul's casino


1964s Rickenbacker 4001S-LH






[img]http://www.thepaintedplayer.co.uk/images/Paul%20McCartney
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 09:03:54 PM »

You are sooo awesome for posting all these pics!!  Looking at them was exciting.  Thanks for responding to my request! :)
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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 02:19:06 PM »

Some great info on Paul's basses here as well: http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/m-1136599110/
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 02:33:03 PM »

Quote from: 63
Some great info on Paul's basses here as well: http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/m-1136599110/


yeah, but why comments were closed? I wanted to post more photos in that thread, but as I see I can't so I made my own thread with his basses and guitars :)
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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 02:35:56 PM »

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yeah, but why comments were closed? I wanted to post more photos in that thread, but as I see I can't so I made my own thread with his basses and guitars :)

True, the thread was locked by its creator.  :)  I can merge the threads if you want me to.
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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 08:54:57 AM »

Quote from:  link=topic=8386.msg198468#msg198468 date=1228047724
Zenith Model 17 acoustic



Hi!! ;)

Is there a pick up on fitted to McCartney's Zenith besides the bridge?? If so..., which kind of pick up is it??

Thanks in advance!! ;)

Best!! ;)

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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2009, 09:00:18 AM »

Compare Paul's Zenith with Paul's Rossetti Solid 7 (=reverted to a bass with three piano strings): a pick up is clearly seen besides Rossetti's bridge. This picture is taken at The Casbah (=probably before their 1st trip to Hamburg in 1960. But I don't know the precise date... Can anybody helps??)

My hypothesis reads: Zenith's pick up and Rosstti's one on this picture could be the same device. Now the question arises: which pick up is that one??

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 10:58:11 AM »

Great stuff guys. :)
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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 01:13:18 PM »

And do you know the bass on "Junior's farm" video please?
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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 09:24:41 PM »

So Paul was playing bass before their first trip to Hamburg? Never made the connection between the Casbah 3 string pic and the pre-Hamburg fact. I thought he only started playing bass after Stu faded away from the group. Anyone got facts/details, please?
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 07:01:05 AM »

...Never made the connection between the Casbah 3 string pic and the pre-Hamburg fact...

The question is: when is that Casbah three string pic from?? Does it really predate 1st trip to Hamburg?? (=1960, August the 16th.) Are there more pics from that session??

According to Andy Babiuk, Paul used his Rosetti Solid 7 as a 3 string bass in several gigs in Liverpool in the Spring of 1961, this is after Chas Newby left the band (=his last gig was 1960, December th 31th.) and before their 2nd trip to Hamburg (=1961, March the 29th.)

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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2009, 08:29:39 AM »

The question is: when is that Casbah three string pic from?? Does it really predate 1st trip to Hamburg?? (=1960, August the 16th.) Are there more pics from that session??

According to Andy Babiuk, Paul used his Rosetti Solid 7 as a 3 string bass in several gigs in Liverpool in the Spring of 1961, this is after Chas Newby left the band (=his last gig was 1960, December th 31th.) and before their 2nd trip to Hamburg (=1961, March the 29th.)

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I don't think Paul played bass on a regular base prior to the first Hamburg trip. Stuart Sutcliffe was on bass then. So I go with Andy Babiuk on this on. I seem to remember that Paul bought his first Hofner somewhere in April 1961, but I could be wrong.

Haven't got a clue about the pick ups.
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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2009, 03:45:13 PM »

Hi Bobber!! ;)

I don't think Paul played bass on a regular base prior to the first Hamburg trip...


No he didn't. His first engagements with the bass were in Hamburg 1st stay there on Stuart absences. He used Stu's Höfner 500/5 (=Brunette 333 in Selmer catalogue) played upside down...

...I seem to remember that Paul bought his first Hofner somewhere in April 1961, but I could be wrong...


No you aren't wrong. He bought it at a music shop in Central Hamburg (=Steinway. Babiuk says that the seller was a certain Günter Hopper...)

But it seems that once upon a time two Beatle bass players performed together in The Casbah in 1961, February the 12th: Paul McCartney with his Rosetti Solid 7 converted to a 3 string bass and Stuart Sutcliffe with his Höfner 500/5...

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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2009, 04:02:35 PM »

I'm not sure when Stu officially left the band. He rejoined them after he came back from Hamburg. Or he could have joined them on an on-and-off base for old times sake.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 04:07:35 PM »

I'm not sure when Stu officially left the band. He rejoined them after he came back from Hamburg. Or he could have joined them on an on-and-off base for old times sake.

Yeah... But the fact is that in April 1961 Paul bought his Höfner, which means that Stu had left the band forever...

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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 11:07:40 PM »

Thanks for clarifying that. You guys are great on dates, or do you secretly look themup???!
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2010, 06:30:08 PM »

...No he didn't. His first engagements with the bass were in Hamburg 1st stay there on Stuart absences. He used Stu's Höfner 500/5 (=Brunette 333 in Selmer catalogue) played upside down...

No you aren't wrong. He bought it at a music shop in Central Hamburg (=Steinway. Babiuk says that the seller was a certain Günter Hopper...)

But it seems that once upon a time two Beatle bass players performed together in The Casbah in 1961, February the 12th: Paul McCartney with his Rosetti Solid 7 converted to a 3 string bass and Stuart Sutcliffe with his Höfner 500/5...




Let's go back to the Rosetti's subject.

- Paul purchased his Rosetti in 1960, June the 30th. at Frank Hessy's music shop in Liverpool for £21. There is a reproduction of the HP book for this purchase at Andy Babiuk's book, page 33.

- He used it for the first time in July the 2nd., for their performance at the Corporation's Grosvenor Ballroom, Grosvenor Road, Liscard, Wallasey, Cheshire, and until mid-April 1961 (=date unknown??) when he purchased his 1st Höfner 500/1 bass at the small shop in Hamburg city center for 267 DM. It was told that sometimes he played it unplugged (=for example at the famous Litherland Town Hall performance in December the 27th., according to -at least- one witness: Faron Ruffley, from The Faron's Flamingos).

- During those 10 months they had more than 200 (=am I right??) gigs in Merseyside and Hamburg (=Indra, Kaiserkeller and Top Ten). This points to an ample use of the Rosetti.

- Besides John, Paul and George, other group members at those 10 months were Pete Best (=from mid August onwards), Stuart Sutcliffe (=with several absences in December 1960, and January-March 1961), and others like the drummer Norman Chapman or Chas Newby, former guitarist with The Blackjacks and engaged to play the bass with The Beatles. Curiously enough he was also left-handed as Paul (=which bass used Chas Newby to play these gigs??).

- Three photographic sessions with Paul playing his Rosetti have surfaced: 17th. August 1960 at Indra, in its original look with the Royal scratchplate/2 pick ups system. 12th. February 1961 at The Casbah, with the guitar converted to a three strings bass with some piano strings, no Royal scratchplate/2 pick ups system and a Höfner 503 K pick up instead. And finally at the beginning of April 1961 at Top Ten, with the guitar re-strung as a standard six strings guitar and a DeArmond pick up.

Now, several questions arise:

- It has been stated that Paul borrowed Stu's bass for some gigs..., when and where??

- When did he stop to use his Rosetti??

- Was he using his Elpico amp all the time until he got his Höfner bass??

- There is only (=really only one??) one picture with Paul posing with John's Höfner Club 40 guitar. When is it from?? Why is he holding John's guitar and not the Rosetti??

I would love to know your opinnion about this topic...

Best!! ;)

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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2010, 11:29:25 PM »

No thoughts??  ???

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Re: McCartney's basses/guitars
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2010, 06:45:06 AM »

I can't help, sorry. :(

But thank you for reviving this thread, I've been searching for it. :)
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2010, 09:32:54 AM »

I can't help, sorry...

It doesn't matter. Maybe some other members can help...

...But thank you for reviving this thread, I've been searching for it. :)

You are welcome... ;)

Best!! ;)

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