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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #760 on: October 19, 2012, 10:31:58 AM »

But when comparing their careers as a whole, The Beatles definitely win. The Beach Boys had incredible highs, but much, much worse lows.

True, but I think that's mostly because The Beatles were smart enough to quit at the right time and to make sure that their music was marketed the right way.
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« Reply #761 on: October 19, 2012, 01:51:14 PM »

True, but I think that's mostly because The Beatles were smart enough to quit at the right time and to make sure that their music was marketed the right way.

Maybe it would be fair to compare the same period of both bands (1962-1970). In my opinion the Beatles beat the Beach Boys even during their mid-60's peak. I think that noone ever released such a great trilogy as Rubber Soul-Revolver-Sgt. Pepper's. I love Pet Sounds but it's not even a Top 10 album for me.
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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #762 on: October 19, 2012, 03:22:44 PM »

Maybe it would be fair to compare the same period of both bands (1962-1970). In my opinion the Beatles beat the Beach Boys even during their mid-60's peak. I think that noone ever released such a great trilogy as Rubber Soul-Revolver-Sgt. Pepper's. I love Pet Sounds but it's not even a Top 10 album for me.

I was really intrigued by this and decided to give it a more nerd-ish approach and give a score from 1 to 10 to each album by both The Beatles and The Beach Boys and then sum and divide them in order to get an average score. I knew Beatles were going to win (I don't really like some early BB's albums) but it was still fun to see the final results.

The Beach Boys :

10 - Pet Sounds
10 - Sunflower
9.5 - Today
9.5 - Friends
9.5 - Smiley Smile
9.5 - Wild Honey
9 - 20/20
8.5 - All Summer Long
8.5 - Surfer Girl
8.5 - Summer Days (and Summer Nights)
7.5 - Shut Down Vol.2
7 - Little Deuce Coupe
7 - Surfin' U.S.A
6.5 - Party!
6 - Surfin' Safari

Final Score : 8.43 (126.5 divided by 15)

The Beatles :

10 - Abbey Road
10 - Sgt. Pepper's
10 - Revolver
9.5 - The White Album
9.5 - Rubber Soul
9.5 - Magical Mystery Tour (yes, I know...not a real album)
9 - A Hard Day's Night
8.5 - Let It Be
8.5 - Beatles For Sale
8.5 - Help!
8 - With The Beatles
7.5 - Please Please Me

Final Score : 9.04 (108.5 divided by 12)

I didn't include neither The Beach Boys' Christmas Album, nor Yellow Submarine.

'Smile', if released, would've definitely got a 10.

But it's pretty clear that both bands released some top-notch material during '65-'70.
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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #763 on: October 19, 2012, 03:39:42 PM »

Beach Boys
Surfin' Safari 6
Surfin' USA 7
Surfer Girl 8
Little Deuce Coupe 7
Shut Down Vol. 2 8
All Summer Long 8.5
Christmas Album 7
Today 9.5
Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) 8.5
Party! 6.5
Pet Sounds 10
Smile 9.5
Smiley Smile 9
Wild Honey 9
Friends 9.5
20/20 9
Sunflower 10

142 : 17 = 8.35

Beatles
Please Please Me 7.5
With The Beatles 7
A Hard Day's Night 8.5
Beatles For Sale 7.5
Help! 7
Rubber Soul 8.5
Revolver 8.5
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 9
Magical Mystery Tour 9.5
White Album 7
Abbey Road 9
Let It Be 8

97 : 12 = 8.08
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« Reply #764 on: October 19, 2012, 06:46:53 PM »

The Beatles

Please Please Me 3/5
With The Beatles 3/5
A Hard Day's Night 4/5
Beatles For Sale 3/5
Help! 4/5
Rubber Soul 5/5
Revolver 5/5
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 5/5
Magical Mystery Tour 4/5
White Album 4/5
Abbey Road 5/5
Let It Be 3/5

Average: 4.0


The Beach Boys

Surfer Girl 3/5
Shut Down Vol. 2 3/5
All Summer Long 4/5
Today! 4/5
Summer Days 4/5
Pet Sounds 5/5
Smiley Smile 3/5
Friends 3/5
Sunflower 3/5

Average: 3.6

Note: I've only rated the Beach Boys albums that I've actually listened to.
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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #765 on: October 20, 2012, 12:31:45 AM »

I'm really digging the new album right now. I'm a sucker for the melodic stuff.

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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #766 on: October 20, 2012, 07:05:38 AM »

I'm really digging the new album right now. I'm a sucker for the melodic stuff.

I love it as well, been listening to it all summer long. Especially the first 5 songs and the last 4. It definitely fulfilled my expectations and I think it should've done the same for every fan.
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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #767 on: October 20, 2012, 07:48:32 PM »

There are a couple of tracks which rank up there with the best stuff any of them have ever recorded.
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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #768 on: October 20, 2012, 09:32:39 PM »

OK, rate everything The Beatles have done together and seperately in their entire lifetimes and then rate everything The Beach Boys have done together and seperately during their entire lifetimes.

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« Reply #769 on: November 09, 2012, 02:28:21 AM »

Hey if you want to see a cool documentary, look up Dennis Wilson The Real Beach Boy on YouTube. Its a reference to the fact that Dennis was the only one who actually surfed in the band, (In the beginning) and it was pretty informative.

Anyway, I've been getting into the Smile album lately and I can't help but think what a great song Surfs Up would have been if it was about the beach, or something to do with their earlier themes. The words just sound too poetic to me (written by Van Dyke Parks). I mean its a great song, it really is, the depth that's there is incredible. And the words are good on their own, but not as a Beach Boys song.

What's your opinion on that?

Joost, its funny I was going to post this on a Beach Boys forum but they're more rabid than Beatles fans.  5dp Or, at least, Im used to the Beatles fans :) ha2ha
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« Reply #770 on: November 09, 2012, 02:19:17 PM »

Anyway, I've been getting into the Smile album lately and I can't help but think what a great song Surfs Up would have been if it was about the beach, or something to do with their earlier themes. The words just sound too poetic to me (written by Van Dyke Parks). I mean its a great song, it really is, the depth that's there is incredible. And the words are good on their own, but not as a Beach Boys song.

What's your opinion on that?

The idea of 'Surf's Up' actually having lyrics about surfing or the beach sounds silly to me, that would be the exact same thing as putting lyrics like 'Love Me Do' or 'Please Please Me' on a song like 'Strawberry Fields Forever' or 'I Am The Walrus'.

But that's just my opinion, of course. ;)
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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #771 on: November 18, 2012, 09:45:58 AM »

How about a top 3 vocal leads for Carl, Brian, Dennis and Mike?

Carl :
1. Let The Wind Blow (In Concert version - absolutely stunning; one of the most powerful and emotional moments in the history of the band. I've always wondered if everything came spontaneously or he planned to sing it that way)
2. Darlin' (many seem to prefer later live recordings, but for me Carl has never quite matched his lead here. His voice still had that bit of naivety and innocence that he lost later and that way it matches the subject matter very well)
3. 4th Of July 

Brian :
1. Surf's Up (1967 Piano Demo from The Smile Sessions)
2. Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder) - music critic George Starostin put it very well : "...with an intonation stuck somewhere in between lazy, melancholic, and tender, that I could never reproduce"
3. You Still Believe In Me

Dennis :
1. Cuddle Up
2. In The Back Of My Mind
3. Never Learn Not To Love

Mike :
1. Kiss Me, Baby (immaculate performance)
2. California Saga : Big Sur
3. All I Wanna Do
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« Reply #772 on: November 19, 2012, 01:48:36 PM »

Brian:
1. Surf's Up (Smile Sessions version)
2. Wonderful (Smile Sessions version)
3. Don't Worry, Baby

Carl:
1. God Only Knows
2. Darlin'
3. This Whole World

Dennis:
1. Forever
2. Cuddle Up
3. Slip On Through

Mike:
1. All I Wanna Do
2. Meant For You
3. California Saga/Big Sur

Al:
1. Lady Lynda
2. Lookin' Down The Coast (the unreleased Beach Boys version, not his solo version)
3. From There To Back Again

Bruce:
1. Tears In The Morning
2. Disney Girls
3. Deirdre
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Re: The Beach Boys
« Reply #773 on: November 19, 2012, 02:24:47 PM »

Interesting choices, Joost. Some information on 'Lookin' Down The Coast' ? I've never heard it/of it.
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« Reply #774 on: November 19, 2012, 04:20:23 PM »

That's probably my favorite unreleased Beach Boys song. It was written by Al and recorded by The Beach Boys in 1978. It's never been officially released, but it has been heavily bootlegged (under different titles: 'Lookin' Down The Coast', 'Monterey' and 'Song Of The Whale'). Al released a new (slower) solo version on his album 'A Postcard From California', but I think the original is far superior.
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« Reply #775 on: November 19, 2012, 04:23:31 PM »

And it futures the unforgettable line "Oh, it's been so long since I have had a woman's breast to lay my head on".  ;D
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« Reply #776 on: November 19, 2012, 05:00:03 PM »

Ah, that pervy little folkie. I always knew there was more to him than meets the eye. No, but seriously, I'd love to hear that. I wonder if there are any chances for it to be properly released on the 'Made In California' box-set or do I have to start looking for bootlegs...
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« Reply #777 on: November 26, 2012, 11:55:37 PM »

Joost, I came upon Younger Girl by The Hondells for the first time today.  I can't believe I've never heard it before.  Sure, I'm familiar with The Lovin' Spoonful and The Critters' versions, but can you elaborate on this for me...


The Hondells - "Younger Girl"
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« Reply #778 on: January 03, 2013, 08:45:34 PM »

Sorry for the late reply. Unfurtionately, I can't tell you anything about The Hondells that you can't find on Wikipedia...
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« Reply #779 on: January 03, 2013, 08:48:53 PM »

I present to you... My Beach Boys collection. :)

7" Singles and EPs:


LPs and 12" singles:


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