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Jonh and paul
« on: August 12, 2004, 06:21:56 PM »

Hello you guys,
  I read this book about the beatles called Beatles unseen archives. And It seemed like in the end, Jonh and Paul hated each other. Is this true?
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2004, 06:38:50 PM »

One should as a fan knows is located in each good book concerning the Beatles
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2004, 06:39:22 PM »

No, it is not.
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2004, 11:01:31 PM »

during the making of let it be, yes, but didnt Paul come to Johns funeral?
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2004, 04:21:12 PM »

why did they hate each other during the making of let it be
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2004, 04:40:57 PM »

...thats a question that could take around 5000 words, and still not hit the main title.

Its not Let It be that created the tensions, but rather a concoction of boredom, annoyance, jelousy and the normal Human emotion that comes from a strained relationship, which is seen from 67/8 onwards.
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2004, 06:26:39 AM »

i heard they didn't, that John only friends with George and Ringo during that famous lost weekend...
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2004, 07:19:25 AM »

[quote by=Olly link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1092334916,s=3 date=1092351691]during the making of let it be, yes, but didnt Paul come to Johns funeral?[/quote]

Well considering they were friends for more then 12 years and they were in a band together, you think he would of gone to Joh's funeral even if they did not like each other anymore.

I think they did like each other. But a lot of stress and other factors came into their lives and they just went their seperate ways.

I like to think that if both of them were still alive then they would be two old men drinking lemonade out front on the porch together talking about past times.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2004, 04:52:45 AM »

[quote by=Olly link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1092334916,s=3 date=1092351691]during the making of let it be, yes, but didnt Paul come to Johns funeral?[/quote]

There was no funeral for John. So how could Paul have gone?

I'm sure they both LOVED each other dearly, but did not always like each other. It's like any deep friendship, you have your ups and downs, but when it comes down to it you still love the person.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2004, 04:57:23 AM »

[quote by=Sie_Liebt_Dich link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1092334916,s=6 date=1098512799]i heard they didn't, that John only friends with George and Ringo during that famous lost weekend...[/quote]

Paul went to L.A. and hung out with John and Ringo for a bit during the 'lost weekend.' I've never heard anything about George being there.

This was taken in 1974 at the recording of Harry Nillson's album girl privatecats. (During his lost weekend) Recognize the guy in the middle? ;D
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2004, 05:36:42 AM »

Noooooo.....
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2004, 09:07:43 PM »

Maccalvr, that`s Keith Moon in the middle - correct?
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2004, 09:50:26 PM »

Yup! I've posted the pic before I think, but didn't think anyone would remember! I wonder who's got their hand on John's shoulder! That is a hand isn't it? There's supposed to be a bunch of polaroids from this time period. I wonder where the rest are cuz I haven't seen them!

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Monday, 4 December, 2000, 17:14 GMT
'Last photo' of Lennon and McCartney for sale

The "last known" photograph of John Lennon and Paul McCartney together is to be auctioned on the internet.
The black and white photo is part of a collection of the late Who drummer Keith Moon memorabilia and is expected to fetch up to £15,000.

The image, taken together with a series of colour Polaroids, was taken four years after the group split up in 1974 at the recording of US singer Harry Nillson's album girl privatecats.

Lennon produced the album during his 18-month so-called Lost Weekend period when he left his wife Yoko Ono and moved from New York to Los Angeles.

The photo was taken when McCartney turned up unannounced and sat in on the recording sessions.

The collection is being sold by Peter Butler, Moon's PA from 1971-1977.


"That's a very special picture so I will be keeping a copy to hang in my living room," he said.

The reunion has been documented by Mojo magazine and in the book The Beatles after the Break-Up, by Keith Badman.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2004, 10:36:05 PM »

[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1092334916,s=0 date=1092334916]Hello you guys,
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2004, 10:59:54 PM »

I think they did love each other..In one interview Paul said that his last conversation with John was over the phone and that they had a very warm and nice talk!
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2004, 11:27:44 PM »

Yeah, in one of his last interviews, he's talking about George's book and how it hurt his feelings a bit, but then he says 'But don't get me wrong, I still love those guys.' 
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Re: Jonh and paul
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2004, 02:17:24 AM »

Thats a good thing,
How did it hurt pauls feelings?
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2004, 02:54:59 AM »

It hurt John's feelings. Here's John's explanation:

PLAYBOY: "You actually haven't mentioned George much in this interview."

LENNON: "Well, I was hurt by George's book, 'I, Me, Mine' ...so this message will go to him. He put a book out privately on his life that, by glaring omission, says that my influence on his life is absolutely zilch and nil. In his book, which is purportedly this clarity of vision of his influence on each song he wrote, he remembers every two-bit sax player or guitarist he met in subsequent years. I'm not in the book."

PLAYBOY: "Why?"

LENNON: "Because George's relationship with me was one of young follower and older guy. He's three or four years younger than me. It's a love/hate relationship and I think George still bears resentment toward me for being a daddy who left home. He would not agree with this, but that's my feeling about it. I was just hurt. I was just left out, as if I didn't exist. I don't want to be that egomaniacal, but he was like a disciple of mine when we started. I was already an art student when Paul and George were still in grammar school." (equivalent to high school in the U.S.) "There is a vast difference between being in high school and being in college and I was already in college and already had sexual relationships, already drank and did a lot of things like that. When George was a kid, he used to follow me and my first girlfriend, Cynthia.. who became my wife... around. We'd come out of art school and he'd be hovering around like those kids at the gate of the Dakota now. I remember the day he called to ask for help on 'Taxman,' one of his bigger songs. I threw in a few one-liners to help the song along, because that's what he asked for. He came to me because he couldn't go to Paul, because Paul wouldn't have helped him at that period. I didn't want to do it. I thought, Oh, no, don't tell me I have to work on George's stuff. It's enough doing my own and Paul's. But because I loved him and I didn't want to hurt him when he called me that afternoon and said, 'Will you help me with this song?' I just sort of bit my tongue and said OK. It had been John and Paul so long, he'd been left out because he hadn't been a songwriter up until then. As a singer, we allowed him only one track on each album. If you listen to the Beatles' first albums, the English versions, he gets a single track. The songs he and Ringo sang at first were the songs that used to be part of my repertoire in the dance halls. I used to pick songs for them from my repertoire... the easier ones to sing. So I am slightly resentful of George's book. But don't get me wrong. I still love those guys. The Beatles are over, but John, Paul, George and Ringo go on."
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2004, 09:58:22 AM »

I heard that paul coun't go to the funeral cause he was afriad to get shop too....I think this is talked about in pauls solo forum if I am not wrong......
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2004, 10:31:05 AM »

Again, there WAS no funeral. I don't get this whole Paul didn't go to the funeral he's so aweful. There was not a funeral. 

From Jane Rosen in New York and Paul Keel
Wednesday December 10, 1980

The unemployed security guard from Hawaii who is accused of killing John Lennon had saved up to go to New York and shoot him, a court was told last night. Mark David Chapman's lawyer said he had shot the former Beatle because: "I understood his words but I didn't understand his meaning."
The shooting stunned people of all generations on both sides of the Atlantic. John Lennon's wife, Yoko Ono, who was with him when five bullets were pumped into his body, issued a statement, signed by her and their son, Sean, aged five. There would be no funeral for the 40-year-old singer, she said. "Later in the week we will set the time for silent vigil to pray for his soul. We invite you to participate wherever you are at the time."   

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The Death of John Lennon in 1980

50 moments that changed the history of rock & roll

 We were really celebrating, the three of us," said producer Jack Douglas, who spent the evening of December 8th, 1980, with John Lennon and Yoko Ono at a New York recording studio working on Ono's new single, "Walking on Thin Ice." "On Monday evening, it seemed like everything was in gear and just perfect." Lennon's friend, producer and label head David Geffen dropped by with the news that Lennon and Ono's Double Fantasy album had gone gold after two weeks out and had scored a Number One spot on the U.K. charts. Lennon "was full of chitchat," according to Douglas, and talked about writing some material for Ringo Starr and putting out another album with his wife that would contain eight leftover tracks recorded that summer during the Double Fantasy sessions. "We were going to master 'Thin Ice' as a single the next day," said Douglas. "The last thing John said to me was, 'See you tomorrow morning, bright and early.' "
John and Yoko left the studio at around 10:30 p.m. and headed home to the Dakota, a posh apartment building on 72nd Street and Central Park West, where they had lived for nine years. They got out of a limousine shortly before eleven, and, as they walked through an archway leading into the Dakota's courtyard, a young man named Mark David Chapman called out, "Mr. Lennon," pulled out a .38-caliber revolver and fired five times at Lennon's back. Four of the shots hit Lennon, who said, "I've been shot," stumbled up a set of steps and then collapsed. After being rushed to Roosevelt Hospital, John Winston Lennon was pronounced dead at the age of forty.

As news wires began buzzing with word that the former Beatle had been shot, hundreds of fans congregated at the hospital and outside the Dakota. Some appeared in pajamas, bathrobes and slippers. Fans wept openly, while others held lighters in the air or joined voices to sing "All My Loving."

The following day, Ono released a statement saying, "There is no funeral for John. John loved and prayed for the human race. Please pray the same for him. Love, Yoko and Sean." A vigil was planned for Sunday, December 14th, when mourners could assemble to pay their last respects. Reports estimated that the attendance at vigils around the world was in the millions: 30,000 in Liverpool, where Lennon grew up; 2,000 in Chicago; 4,500 at Red Rocks Amphitheatre in Denver; several thousand in Melbourne, Australia. The largest vigil was held in Lennon's adopted hometown of New York. At 2 p.m. on that brisk afternoon, 100,000 fans observed ten minutes of silence in Central Park, which ended with "Imagine" being played over the loudspeakers.
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