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so sad that I didn't know
« on: August 20, 2004, 03:51:33 AM »

I like documentaries, when they are about the Beatles, but I saw one the other day that made me so angry and sad and dissapointed in human beings.  It was about John's life after the Beatles, and the life of Mark Chapman (I hate typing his name, makes me feel like he won)  and when it got to December 8, 1980, I learned somethign I didn't know.  Chapman got his autograph that day.  I was so disgusted, I called my boyfriend to rant and he told me he already knew about that.  I couldn't believe it.  The worse part of the documentary was that they tried to justify Chapman's actions kinda, because he was "mentaly ill".  He was a self centered little bastard who didn't want to die a nobody.  Please tell me that there aren't anymore little depressing facts like that about it.   :'(
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2004, 03:54:48 AM »

Nope. 

Other than the fact Yoko had her husband assassinated right in front of her.  And Sean only being 5 and all.  And a whole generation losing its youth in one moment of madness.

That about covers it.


(Not trying to be a smart-ass...I guess the biggest event of all was his needless and violent death.  Everything else was branched out from that.  I applaud your insight about MDC tho...he really was just a little sh*t.  Crazy?  Who can say?  But his actions were beyond craziness.)
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2004, 03:57:43 AM »

I knew Sean was 5, but I thought the whole assassination bit was a rumor?  Anyone want to verify it as truth, I never believed it. Hmmm.
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 03:58:03 AM »

I mean that Yoko planned it
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 06:16:57 AM »

No, I don't mean Yoko had anything to do with it. 

MDC pumped 5 bullets at close range into John from a dropknee stance, for absolutely no reason except his own bizarre thoughts.  The fact that John was not just *shot*, he was totally blown away is what I referred to.

And it IS beyond sad.
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2004, 09:28:07 AM »

i post this link  once before, but anyway - heres a lot of stuff about it

http://www.mackwhite.com/lennon.html
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2004, 04:57:15 PM »

There's lots of things to say about that dredful act, but I'd better shut up, I don't want to give that loony any nmore publicity.
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2004, 06:25:04 PM »

Is Mark Chapman dead?
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2004, 07:37:53 PM »

[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=lennon,m=1092973893,s=7 date=1093026304]Is Mark Chapman dead?[/quote]

No, but he will be minutes after walking out the the jail loony bin.

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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2004, 08:06:33 PM »

So, what did happen with Chapman after the whole thing?
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2004, 04:27:02 AM »

if I remember right from teh documentary he is in jail, he was up for parole in october of 2000 but they didn't let him go.  I agree with Sadie4, I don't like talking about it.
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2004, 11:55:19 AM »

It's making us sad...

In Belgium (where I live) they will be showing a sort of documentary where he was that day and when he was...(you know what I mean...I don't want to talk about it).
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2004, 05:27:17 PM »

So, we'd better not talk more about that a**hole
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2004, 06:25:14 PM »

I think they dont want Chapman released, because of obvious reasons.
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2004, 07:52:47 PM »

When will he be released? I'll cripple him...
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2004, 08:28:03 PM »

I think that there WILL be some action taken against this criminal -- I do not support this -- but I think it WILL happen....big time!

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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2004, 01:37:49 AM »

Will you people please shut up.

What happened to John was a tragedy but whats happened has happened and you can't change it.

Saying that you'll cripple or kill Mark Chapman if he gets out (which I doubt highly that he will) is incredible to me, I'm sure John would never have wanted that, a life for a life dosen't work.
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2004, 05:55:03 AM »

[quote by=Heather_Michele link=Blah.pl?b=lennon,m=1092973893,s=0 date=1092973893]I like documentaries, when they are about the Beatles, but I saw one the other day that made me so angry and sad and dissapointed in human beings.
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2004, 10:26:29 AM »

[quote by=colleen link=Blah.pl?b=lennon,m=1092973893,s=17 date=1093240503]

There's even a picture out there of John signing the autograph for MDC.

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Yes, I saw that picture.

I just wonder, if MDC was offially pronounced mentally ill, even before what he did, why wasn't he in the hospital, and how could he have a gun.
What if he killed John by proxy? What if the government entrusted him, because John was dangerous for them? Just remember how John stood by peace, and his ideology moved many people.
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Re: so sad that I didn't know
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2004, 12:42:41 PM »

Supposedly, Chapman has found God and all that stuff, while in prison, which will aid him in his quest for parole and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT, if he does get out, there can only be two bad sides to it. The first is that a murdering bastard, lowlife fuk like him will actually succeed in seeing freedom one more time. The second is that some crazy John fan could actually repeat the deed towards Chapman, in which alot of negative karma heads towards the Lennon camp. Its a no win situation.
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