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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2009, 09:30:03 PM »

It was great!

They use this trick in the harmonies too

Two voices sang G# and E all the time and other go down C#-C-B in the studio version. When They play it live George sang G# all the time and John the C#-C-B part, leaving the E.

 :D Yes, I believe it is one of my all time favorite Beatle moments! (Sorry John ...  :-[ )
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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2009, 07:23:10 PM »

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« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2009, 08:25:35 PM »

could you post a tutorial on how to play Michelle?
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« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2009, 01:49:18 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2009, 08:08:03 PM »

Thanks! :)
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« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2009, 02:47:39 PM »

helpful. thanks
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2009, 03:10:08 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2009, 07:29:28 PM »

"Michelle" is a good choice. Because it half answers the question alexis was asking a few posts back, in relation to "All My Loving":


I have to say, I have never seen an augmented chord used in the fashion these guys did in that song (All My Loving). If I had to guess, maybe it's an old music hall technique Paul heard from his father when he was growing up and his father played in bands. Any body else have any thoughts on the use of the augmented chord in that fashion?

In "Michelle" you get the same descending line in the harmony, stepping down by semi-tones:

"All my lovin...I will send to you"
"I will say the only words...."

Except with "Michelle" it keeps going - F,E,Eb,D,Db, landing finally on the dominant C. But in both examples the augmented chord is generated by the second step down.
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« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2009, 07:48:47 PM »

"Michelle" is a good choice. Because it half answers the question alexis was asking a few posts back, in relation to "All My Loving":

In "Michelle" you get the same descending line in the harmony, stepping down by semi-tones:

"All my lovin...I will send to you"
"I will say the only words...."

Except with "Michelle" it keeps going - F,E,Eb,D,Db, landing finally on the dominant C. But in both examples the augmented chord is generated by the second step down.

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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2009, 11:21:20 PM »

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« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2009, 03:17:01 AM »

^ Thanks so much Nelson!  ;D
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« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2009, 03:51:14 AM »

Nicely done, Nelson. What I love about this song is the alternation between Fminor and Fmajor. It has the effect of brightening and darkening the mood. First shadow, then sunlight, then shadow.... It's such a beautiful piece.
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« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2009, 05:13:41 AM »

"Michelle" is a good choice. Because it half answers the question alexis was asking a few posts back, in relation to "All My Loving":

In "Michelle" you get the same descending line in the harmony, stepping down by semi-tones:

"All my lovin...I will send to you"
"I will say the only words...."

Except with "Michelle" it keeps going - F,E,Eb,D,Db, landing finally on the dominant C. But in both examples the augmented chord is generated by the second step down.



Great observation, Pilz!!

Are you Paul??

Or maybe George (Martin)?

I knew that actually, just didn't understand it well enough to know that! It's the same sequence (Michelle) as "Time in  Bottle" by Jim Croce:

Jim Croce _ Time in A Bottle

(Couldn't find a youtube of good ol' Jim Croce himself doing his song. I think the original was in Dm, just like Michelle, but maybe this guy is up half a step ...)
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Also, the same chord progression, with the famous Pilzkopf augmented 2nd chord, in that classic forever we all know and love - "A Heartbeat (It's a Love Beat!)" by the DeFranco family!!

Heartbeat, It's a Lovebeat - DeFranco Family


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« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2009, 01:50:02 PM »

^And of course there's the iconic Stairway to Heaven.... :)

I'll just make some comments on a couple of other things you wrote earlier:

"To the best of my knowledge, an E aug (E-G#-C)  has the same notes as a C aug (C-E-G#), has the same notes as a G# aug (G#-C-E), they are just different inversions of each other. I think there may only  be 4 truly different augmented chords:"

Right, if you move the shape up the frets, you get an inversion of the original at every fourth step.

And diminished sevenths repeat every third step, so there's only three of those. The three that Nelson played in his "Michelle" tutorial, in the instrumental outro, are all inversions of each other!

Augmenteds again:
"I've usually seen it used as a 5th chord on the way back to the root chord - like the first chord in "Oh, Darling"."

I was playing one of their early songs on my guitar a few weeks back where there was an augmented chord like that one, played instead of the dominant fifth. But I can't remember which song. Which was it? It's annoying me that I can't pin it down. ???
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« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2009, 05:51:02 PM »

^And of course there's the iconic Stairway to Heaven.... :)

I'll just make some comments on a couple of other things you wrote earlier:

"To the best of my knowledge, an E aug (E-G#-C)  has the same notes as a C aug (C-E-G#), has the same notes as a G# aug (G#-C-E), they are just different inversions of each other. I think there may only  be 4 truly different augmented chords:"

Right, if you move the shape up the frets, you get an inversion of the original at every fourth step.

And diminished sevenths repeat every third step, so there's only three of those. The three that Nelson played in his "Michelle" tutorial, in the instrumental outro, are all inversions of each other!

Augmenteds again:
"I've usually seen it used as a 5th chord on the way back to the root chord - like the first chord in "Oh, Darling"."

I was playing one of their early songs on my guitar a few weeks back where there was an augmented chord like that one, played instead of the dominant fifth. But I can't remember which song. Which was it? It's annoying me that I can't pin it down. ???

"I'm Happy Just to Dance with You"?

"It's Only Love"?

And thanks for the chordal discussion!
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« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2009, 01:22:35 AM »

"I'm Happy Just to Dance with You"?

That's the one. :)
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« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2009, 02:24:22 PM »

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