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Bruno
February 25, 2004, 5:45am Report to Moderator

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Jay Z the rapper made the Grey album, the work consists of remixes Jay-Z's The Black Album and the Beatles White Album
I know it's kinda sad for some of you to see Beatles songs used by a rapper but it's something different and the album can be downloaded here:

http://www.illegal-art.org/audio/grey.html

something happened, and Jay Z decided to make the downloads legal, so go ahead and give it try



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Quoted from Bruno, posted February 25, 2004, 5:45am at here
something happened, and Jay Z decided to make the downloads legal, so go ahead and give it try


Probably because no one bought that rubbish. 
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well said


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I wonder what Paul and Ringo think of all of this....


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Quoted from Taxgirl, posted February 25, 2004, 5:55pm at here


Probably because no one bought that rubbish. 


I've heard it...it's actually not bad and pretty interesting.  I like it.  Better than you'd expect.


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yeah, it doesn't suck, I mean, it's free and it doesn't hurt to try it



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as i said in another post on the forum, i couldn't help myself and get it and i listened to it. It destroys entirely the songs. They lose the beauty of the melody. It's neither rap and it's neither beatles. It's just something very very strange and chaotic. That's just my opinion and how i feel about it!

BTW how come this is legal? I mean how come is Jay Z allowed to do such a thing? Can he just take a song and do whatever he pleases with it?


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here's an explanation of why it's free:

DJ Danger Mouse created a remix of Jay-Z's the Black Album and the Beatles White Album, and called it the Grey Album. Jay-Z's record label, Roc-A-Fella, released an a capella version of his Black Album specifically to encourage remixes like this one. But despite praise from music fans and major media outlets like Rolling Stone ("an ingenious hip-hop record that sounds oddly ahead of its time") and the Boston Globe (which called it the "most creatively captivating" album of the year), EMI has sent cease and desist letters demanding that stores destroy their copies of the album and websites remove them from their site. EMI claims copyright control of the Beatles 1968 White Album.

Danger Mouse’s album is one of the most "respectful" and undeniably positive examples of sampling; it honors both the Beatles and Jay-Z. Yet the lawyers and bureaucrats at EMI have shown zero flexibility and not a glimmer of interest in the artistic significance of this work. And without a clearly defined right to sample (e.g. compulsory licensing), the five major record labels will continue to use copyright in a reactionary and narrowly self-interested manner that limits and erodes creativity. Their actions are also self-defeating: good new music is being created that people want to buy, but the major labels are so obsessed with hoarding their copyrights that they are literally turning customers away.

This first-of-its-kind protest signals a refusal to let major label lawyers control what musicians can create and what the public can hear. The Grey Album is only one of the thousands of legitimate and valuable efforts that have been stifled by the record industry-- not to mention the ones that were never even attempted because of the current legal climate. We cannot allow these corporations to continue censoring art; we need common-sense reforms to copyright law that can make sampling legal and practical for artists.

The Grey Tuesday protest is being organized by Downhill Battle, a music activism project that has no affiliation with Danger Mouse. Downhill Battle Press Contact



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What makes me laugh is the fact that these remixers think they are creating something new and worthy - they are not, it's just pure novelty. Nor are these people musicians - if they were, surely they could re-record the necessary White Album tracks and then cut and remix them as much as they liked! But of course they wont - they're far to busy getting rich off other peoples creations. If an artist doesn't want their work represented in this manner then take the hint - and SOD OFF!


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Quoted from JoeJohn, posted March 4, 2004, 10:27am at here
I guess if I learned anything from the experience, it's that even if you layer their songs with rap lyrics, and I mean popular rap lyrics, the Beatles' genius still shines through.


That's a really good point

I don't dislike rap music - it just annoys me when remixers take the work of other artists and try to pass it off as something new - especially when the artist doesn't even want to be involved.


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and expecially when they consider themselves or are considered as artists for their vision...


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Quoted from Fool_on_the_Hill, posted March 4, 2004, 4:18pm at here
and expecially when they consider themselves or are considered as artists for their vision...


Exactly!


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rap is black person music
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i didnt say black person, i said N I G G E R.
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WHAT?!
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