its been said he covered match box............during the beatles.

Quoted from pc31, posted September 18, 2004, 9:44am at here

hey 777 the dead milkmen are a good band.....

I'll take your word for it 

One listen to Love Me Do on the Anthology reveals why Pete was sacked, IMO.  The drumming was not very good.  During the harmonica solo, he is all off.

Ringo was far better.

Quoted from Sadie4, posted December 3, 2004, 6:08pm at here

I thought only Andy White and Ringo drummed opn Love me do...

There's an outtake on Anthology 1 with Pete drumming.  Most of it's pretty bad, but during the solo it gets really bad.  He's way off the beat.

Pete is interesting because of how close he came to being a star, but he's no different, IMO, than Stu or any of the Quarrymen or any other member of any famous band who got kicked out before the big break.

Ringo got the gig because he was better.  End of story.

oh...

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Pete is interesting because of how close he came to being a star, but he's no different, IMO, than Stu or any of the Quarrymen or any other member of any famous band who got kicked out before the big break.

Stu wasn't kicked out, he left.

Quoted from Mairi, posted December 8, 2004, 3:45pm at here

Stu wasn't kicked out, he left.

Of course, you're right.  I was just making a point.  Over the years, Pete's legend has grown to the point where people can't conceive that he was kicked out for the simple reason that Ringo was far better.  It has to be that everybody was jealous because he was so good looking and he was better than Ringo, ect. 

The legend has only grown because the Beatles are the biggest band in the world.

Yes. And, it's true that Stu wasn't much of musician either. As I recall he couldn't even play bass.

beatles the biggest??????

Quoted from Mairi, posted December 8, 2004, 7:52pm at here

Yes. And, it's true that Stu wasn't much of musician either. As I recall he couldn't even play bass.

i heard that too

Quoted from pc31, posted December 9, 2004, 1:52am at here

beatles the biggest??????

Yes... Is that troublesome?

just seems like a narrow veiw.thats all.

What's narrow?  That the Beatles are the biggest band in the world or that Pete is not as good as Ringo?

The Beatles have sold more records than any music act in history and they still are a top 10 selling act 35 years after they broke up.  To me, that's the biggest band in the world.  Now, if you're arguing that there is someone who is better than the Beatles, that's a subjective opinion, but that's not what I was referring to.

As far as Pete vs Ringo, once again, based upon recorded evidence, Ringo seems to be better.  That might be a subjective opinion, but most would agree with me.

maybe beethovens 5th has been played more than yesterday.i love the beatles too but because the impact is personal i must disqualify myself as a judge.
you catch my drift?music is like THE BORG.it is a collective type thing that needs all parts.no one person or people can be the best can they?
influential sure...........