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harihead
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Shakespeare. Talk about your crass commercialist...  


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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Paul did in fact bring Linda in on several occasions, perhaps in a game of "if you bring yours, I'll bring mine." Geoff Emerick reports that Yoko was an abrasive, intrusive presence, whereas Linda was so polite and friendly that she was a pleasure to have in the studio. She also shut up and let the fellows do their work, whereas Yoko for some reason thought she was musically competent enough to comment on the Beatles' works in progress. She was an avant-garde artist who claimed she didn't even know who John was when she met him; this gives her musical insight precisely... how?

But Yoko wouldn't have been so intrusive if John hadn't used her to distance himself from the group, which is what he did. He encouraged Yoko to present her views, ignored the others to pay attention to her, and even announced that she would do all his speaking for him. Not the best way to carry on the Beatles, particularly as he could not have failed to notice that the others resented this intrusion into their creative process. I think John wanted to distance himself from the Beatles, and used Yoko to do it. As Yoko was eager to have John all to herself, this was a win-win for the couple and a losing proposition for the rest of the Beatles, whose only choice seemed to be "put up with John and Yoko's antics" or "break up the band".

I wish John had simply said "I'm done now" and walked away from the Beatles cleanly, if that's what he wanted to do. George was eager to be off on his own by then. I wish I had that snippet from some LIB studio tape where George is bringing up, very sensitively, how he'd like to record on his own. Not leave the band! Just... record on his own. They all could do it, but still get back together and do Beatles stuff, too. And Yoko says, "That's a good idea", which made me laugh, because she so obviously wanted to record with John on her own. I don't recall exactly how the conversation ended-- does anyone remember this? I found it on Youtube, but it was taken down. The impression I got was that John was undecided if this was a good idea or not. I think he wanted to keep the Beatles where he and Paul were undisputed top dog, even though he wanted to move in a different direction. I can understand how it would be hard to walk away from that kind of success. It's just sad that they did it anyway, in a far more painful manner than an intentional breakup.


HI Harihead, I can't be sure, but I remember hearing something like that quite recently, and since I was listening to LIB nekked, I wonder if it is on that?



I love John,
I love Paul,
And George and Ringo,
I love them all!

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Thanks, Alexis. I don't think it's on nekked, as that didn't have much chat. It was some guy posting unused songs from (I assume) the LIB sessions. That's where I heard the Beatles sing "Hear Me Lord"-- so glad they didn't do that one. The Beatles' strength was their sincerity, and only George could sing that song with any conviction.

Anyway, amongst all this was a short, just over a minute clip of George proposing that they do solo records without necessarily breaking up the Beatles. Not sure why the poster took all these down-- perhaps he'd received one of those scary "you're posting copyrighted material" notices.


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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I'm glad they didn't do "Hear Me Lord", all that sort of thing off of ATMP is crap as I hear it. Give me "Dig A Pony" any day. It's all about the same thing anyway.

The Beatles ended because they did, they were all 30 and had families and intrests far beyond satisfing fools who belived the Beales were it, what was the point of that if the Beatles weren't satisfying the Beatles? It would have gone all phony. It was right for them to end like they did and when they did, maybe it could have been a little more "nice" like not bitching each other and themselves really, in songs and in yod MM. But as they started as optimist they end as pessimist, it's always like that. It's explained well in Anthology, but if you don't want to take that then take it how you like.

That is how I take it.
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Thanks, Alexis. I don't think it's on nekked, as that didn't have much chat. It was some guy posting unused songs from (I assume) the LIB sessions. That's where I heard the Beatles sing "Hear Me Lord"-- so glad they didn't do that one. The Beatles' strength was their sincerity, and only George could sing that song with any conviction.

Anyway, amongst all this was a short, just over a minute clip of George proposing that they do solo records without necessarily breaking up the Beatles. Not sure why the poster took all these down-- perhaps he'd received one of those scary "you're posting copyrighted material" notices.


It's on one of the CD's in the Day By Day series. Feel free to download all 76 of them over at the Bootleg forum!


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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It's on one of the CD's in the Day By Day series. Feel free to download all 76 of them over at the Bootleg forum!


Paul will be glad to re-upload them for you.
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Paul will be glad to re-upload them for you.


Great, I knew you'd reveal my initiation task eventually!!

Actually, they're all still live.


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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