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May 14, 2004, 3:36am Report to Moderator

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at another forum broad he said he was having problems will i went there and this is what he had to say 

Sorry Paolo,

I've got the disc space to leave them up, it's just the wanton bandwidth use that I'm trying to discourage...

I've got a tremendous amount of visitors that consume 300-400 MB's per session. I don't understand this since I've never even had more than a fraction of that up at once...

Must be that folks are just playing the songs all day over and over again from the site...

With 1k- 1500 visitors a day, this get's expensive, fast.

The more I have up there the more I seem to attract these folks...I want to make sure I've got enough bandwidth for everyone!

UB

that was a few days agian to tell you the turth i don't even know what bandwidth is all i know is you got to pay the guy now.
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Maria
May 14, 2004, 4:24am Report to Moderator
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I've got a feeling that this is a set up.

He goes to Beatlelinks (a very popular forum; I post there under another name), and advertizes his stuff. Hits start pouring in – as he must have known. But no email contact, anywhere. Hmm.

He dangles a HUGE list of what he's got; wait and you can have it all, he says.

He complains of his bandwidth problems: he thinks people are not dl-ing, but just clicking on the links and playing the songs "live" so to speak. Maybe – that would use huge bandwidth. He gets told: zip the files, so that if the links are clicked, the songs download. Problem solved.

He doesn't do that. Instead, he has this "pay me through paypal" scheme, just after he uploads lots of goodies – several CDs worth. I mean, if you're worried about bandwidth, just reduce the offerings! Now there's an email address – a yahoo one, which anyone can get anonymously. But what guarantee is there that he'll keep uploading stuff once he's made a tidy sum? He gets your dollars, but you don't get anymore music.

When you think about it, it's a nice scam. If you're reading this, matey, I'm not paying you a cent. And I've got some nice music from you. Thanks.
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May 14, 2004, 5:00am Report to Moderator

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I agree with Maria, this site all of the sudden seems a lil bit fishy.

I knew this was going to eventually happen though, I mean, if you have unreleased material from the most popular music band in the world chances are that you're going to have a lot of traffic in your website, and yes, bandwitdh it's not free and it can become expensive.
But I think Maria made a good point; the guy running the site should offer only one album per week (he started that way, remember?) and of course, compressing the files will help save bandwith too.

Just look at the site, they have:

Complete BBC Sessions Upgraded 3
Complete BBC Sessions Upgraded 4
Get Back Journals II 1
Get Back Journals II 2
Lost Pepperland Reel
Complete BBC Sessions Upgraded 1
Complete BBC Sessions Upgraded 2
Strawberry Lane

that makes a total of eight albums full of tracks!!... no wonder the guy is having problems!!

I hope the guy running the site can solve the problem and maintain it free



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May 14, 2004, 11:07am Report to Moderator

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I truly hope this wasn't a scam! Perhaps offering all these goodies absolutely free really IS costing him money! It was good while it lasted and certainly saved me a lot of money, but now the the choice is ours - say thank you and goodnight or pay up and enjoy the rest of the downloads.

I must admit I am VERY tempted to pay, seeing as Beatles' bootleg CDs cost over ?15 in the UK (aprox $30)! I'll wait and see what his next move is though!!!


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May 14, 2004, 2:10pm Report to Moderator

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yeah, the idea of paying is very tempting but I'll wait too.
Luckily, I downloaded all the new stuff he posted yesterday before he made the site password-protected



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May 14, 2004, 3:37pm Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Bruno, posted May 14, 2004, 2:10pm at here
Luckily, I downloaded all the new stuff he posted yesterday before he made the site password-protected


Hee hee - me too! LOL


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There is no guarantee he will keep uploading material after you have paid. He may not even send you a password!

I wouldn't carry out any transactions at all with someone who gives as his only contact "unreleasedbeatles@yahoo.com". That's far too anonymous.
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maybe we should write a 'group mail' signed by all of us, asking him to give us a free password and username because we love his website and we are huge beatles fans



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May 14, 2004, 8:59pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Bruno, posted May 14, 2004, 8:57pm at here
maybe we should write a 'group mail' signed by all of us, asking him to give us a free password and username because we love his website and we are huge beatles fans


Hmm – it would be interesting to see his response!
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May 15, 2004, 7:00am Report to Moderator

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I was half-way through downloading the Strawberry Lane album before they started this pay-pal stuff.  I would have been done already if I was still at school, but Finals were over a week ago.  I had high-speed internet in my dorm room, but here at home I have slow dial-up internet.  I really want the rest of that stuff before it is gone, but Maria makes a very good point.  Well, more than one.  I am a pretty skeptical person myself, but my fiance wants us to buy a subscription.  Yes, it is cheap for all the music we'll get, but how do we know he isnt just a big liar and its all stuff we could actually find somewhere else if we looked hard enough?  I say we set out on a search on the internet to find more sites like this, only ones that are free - or at least trustworthy enough to contribute to.  I'm still confused though as to wether or not I should go ahead and buy this.  Has anyone bought a subscription yet?  If so, has he been true to his word so far?


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Yeah, very good advice, Maria. It might be worth just buying a monthly subscription, that way you're not going to lose too much money if it is a rip off.


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For those who are not aware of it, the biggest free music collection still available are the alt.binary newsgroups.

With a program like X-News (free) it will decode the files automatically and you can download to your hearts content.  Well, if you have a newsserver that will do it (cis.dfn.de does not have binary groups).

There is currently one place (Tera) that offers 50 mg free daily downloading, with only a $3.95 one time setup fee.  Not strictly free but close enough!  There are dozens of music newsgroups in the binaries, from the 1940's thru 2000's, as well as those devoted to specific groups like the Beatles.  I have seen most everything on the Beatle binaries that was mentioned on unreleased.com at one time or another. 

Free download websites are getting scarcer and scarcer.  Yet the binaries flourish.  I have fleshed out my library with over 1000 *rare* and hard to find songs thru these places in the last 8, 9 months or so.

Highly recommended.
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Good point, Mr Charles. If you're new to "beatlegs", alt.binaries are good. As you say, free sites are getting thin.

There really is no need to risk (and it is a risk) giving your money to a complete stranger.
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Thanks for the info - any ideas whether these programs will work on a Mac?


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Is this site you speak of legal?  Or is it like Kazaa and all the others?
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