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I think Just Like Starting Over is one of John's " worst songs " as a solo artist because it's too mainstream & too bland like something Paul would record as a solo artist, it sounds like a 50's pop song from Lennon's youth with its Elvis feel even though " I wasn't too impressed " with it when it was released at the time or now since it's not Instant Karma or Imagine, it was great to have John " back in the spotlight " again since I thought I might see this former Beatle live on tour before he was tragedically murdered but this solo classic isn't one of his finest!
I want you, I want you so bad babe. I want you, I want you so bad. It's driving me mad, it's driving me mad.
I love it. It is a great Beatley song, and when it came out I was unaware he was recording again so it was a wonderful surprise (briefly, anyway, until December).
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It's a good song - not his best though. I thought Woman and Watching The Wheels were better. It's always sad listening the Double Fantasy because the music reminds me so much of that December.
It always reminded me that even John Lennon had an "orbison" faze. Personally I love the song. And I would go as far as to say I think you're dead wrong. "Starting over" was one of the BEST Lennon songs. He shows a different side in that song, a vunerability, and you're dumb! lol
Wayne is VERY provocative, but we shouldn't mind that. Wayne's threads almost always do well. The trouble is, Wayne can get annoyed – and he posts when he is annoyed; that makes him write abusive things.
But I do think he really is a knowledgeable fan, but is a poor explainer of his own viewpoint. I think I know where he's coming from on Starting Over, though.
In 1980, the buzz was high that John Lennon was recording again. There were two opinions about what he'd produce: ONE, good pop/rock songs, with an edge and a challenge to the listener. Or TWO, mediocre songs to his women (Yoko/May Pang) a la Mind Games/Walls & Bridges mixed with material John thought was good pop/rock, but which missed the point (a la his Rock N Roll album).
Sadly, the first we heard was Starting Over (as Wayne says, "a 50's pop song from Lennon's youth with its Elvis feel") which suggested option TWO was the Lennon path. As indeed it proved to be ...
Quoted from Maria, posted May 20, 2004, 11:25pm at here
Wayne is VERY provocative, but we shouldn't mind that. Wayne's threads almost always do well. The trouble is, Wayne can get annoyed – and he posts when he is annoyed; that makes him write abusive things.
But I do think he really is a knowledgeable fan, but is a poor explainer of his own viewpoint. I think I know where he's coming from on Starting Over, though.
In 1980, the buzz was high that John Lennon was recording again. There were two opinions about what he'd produce: ONE, good pop/rock songs, with an edge and a challenge to the listener. Or TWO, mediocre songs to his women (Yoko/May Pang) a la Mind Games/Walls & Bridges mixed with material John thought was good pop/rock, but which missed the point (a la his Rock N Roll album).
Sadly, the first we heard was Starting Over (as Wayne says, "a 50's pop song from Lennon's youth with its Elvis feel") which suggested option TWO was the Lennon path. As indeed it proved to be ...
I would consider that endorsement of Wayne if it were just one or two threads where he is totally boorish. However, it is pretty much every thread.
This does not indicate someone grasping for a way to simply state their opinions, not is it someone just trying to stimulate some good conversation. It indicates the person is an a**hole. Or a troll. or both.
Quoted from tkitna, posted May 20, 2004, 4:51pm at here
Well, I aint that crazy about 'Imagine' to be honest with you. I think this song is alot more pleasing to the ear.
I'm glad someone spoke up and gave an honest opinion of "Imagine." I really love the song, but I'm tired of it being eulogized and proclaimed to be his best song. That's utter rubbish, because no one can ascertain for the general what anyone's best song is.
Personally, I'm a fan of his obscure, lesser-known, lesser-appreciated songs. I LOVE to death things like "Oh My Love" and "Out the Blue" and "Tight A$" and "Nobody Loves You (When You're Down and Out" and "Remember", "I Found Out", "Crippled Inside" and everything that's on Milk and Honey and, God, his demos...they are seriously beautiful.
He has soooo many gorgeous, gorgeous songs that just send shivers up my spine and what do I hear people say? "Oh "Imagine." I think I could go on the rest of my life not hearing that song again and be fine. But the others? Never take them from me. I guess I'm one of the few, strange John fans. Don't know...
But anyway..."Starting Over"? I love it. Great fun, great song, who cares if there's no message. People like Paul's music and he rarely says much. If you like a song for whatever reason, that's all that matters.
Starting Over is one of his best in my opinion.......I love Imagine, but I've just heard it so much....that and "Jealous Guy" often prevent me from putting the Imagine album on because I'm a bit tired of hearing those two tracks.....they're amazing songs, but they've just been overplayed for me.
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what the heck is this person is talking about just like startinng over Rocks \m/ SOMEONE is full of it...don't want to point out who but you'll know who i am talking about
I have to agree about Imagine. I feel this song has absorbed too much publicity and over-rated context, and as a result..the Lennon* aura that surrounds this rulebook for Peace, has become part of the furniture in the Over-rated section of Rock history. Its a good song, but the fame and quality it often gets is just absurd. Like many people have said, there are a good dozen better Solo Lennon Songs.
Too bad about what's happened to "Imagine". I remember liking it so much when John was still with us; after John died, it just became too much of an anthem, and it kind of took on a whole different spirit as though it was John speaking to us from beyond. It was a little song you rarely heard on the radio, but now it's overplayed.
Throw me in with you two. I have always hated the overplaying and over estimation of this song. It IS a pretty melody, affectedly performed. But the lyrics are, frankly, trite. They were then, they still are.
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