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July 8, 2004, 10:50am Report to Moderator

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I may be the only Beatle fan in here who doesn't think Yoko is evil. Strange, yes. Acquired taste, absolutely. Bonkers somewhat, sure. Maybe she made some mistakes with Julian, which is not something I overlook nor something I know about personally so I kind of just have it there in my subconscious as a reason why Yoko's kind of 50/50 with me.

But I really, sincerely feel that Yoko and John had a beautiful love. I think they were two of the most inspiring and fascinating couples in history. I think, truthfully, people are intimidated by strong women so they have to refer to those who actually become more notorious as "not god" or "evil."

She didn't break up the Beatles, people. Come on! I certainly don't want to start anything, but I kind of think John had more to do with the actualy break-up than Ms. Ono. I also never thought he was p*$$y-whipped, if you catch my drift, by Yoko. I think he liked the idea of sharing a union with someone who he had an intellectual and idealistic connection with, and that they bounced stuff off each other. He seemed to always want to play fair and give her credit for things she influenced him with, and even Yoko said he would give her MORE credit sometimes because she was dogged so much it hurt him.

I really think John most certainly wore the pants in that relationship, Yoko could be manipulative, but she wasn't evil and she didn't break up his band.

That's just my opinion. I actually never even think about it because I've come around to liking Yoko very much as of late. She seems like a really cool lady.
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I agree. I've never disliked yoko or thought she broke up the Beatles. I think john would have left the group sooner or later anyway. I'm sure she had some influence on him, such as bag-ins and some of the other strange things they did, but i don't believe she was out to break up the group or make him leave them.
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I think that although a lot of people hated her, John was right, forget them because he loved her and he was happy with her and that's all that mattered. If it wouldn't have said yes, who knows what the world would be like now.


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So why do the other three Beatles seem to dislike her so much? I'm not saying she's the reason or anything and when I say she's evil it's a joke. A very old joke ya know. But I do wonder why the other three had issues with her.


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because she was always there and John let her "sing".  She seems like a cool person to me, but I'm not in a room with her every day. 



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I'm sure she's a very cool person. But at the time I think they were both a little nuts.


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But maybe they were sane to each other. Maybe it's other people who think they were "nuts" because what John and Yoko were doing seemed so insane and ridiculous. But to them it seemed to make sense, and it mattered, or else I just don't think there would be a point for them to do it. For attention? Why, when most of it was negative and they didn't seem to appreciate the negativity in the first place.

As for the other three Beatles dismay towards Yoko? I don't see how that should configure towards the ultimate perception of her as a person. I'm sure there are people who don't like me, but I certainly wouldn't consider it fair for supperters of those people to also dislike me for no other reason than the fact that their friends don't care for me. G and P seemed to be the ones most distraught by her, and they would be considering how she up and becae a massive part of John's life, to the point that he started blocking other things out of it.

But that is not entirely her fault. Let me assure you I am not trying to disagree with everything being said against Yoko. I do actually agree with some things, but the fact that the other Beatles didn't care for her doesn't really correlate, to me. I don't consider their judgments the end all be all, neither do I consider John's.

Didn't George also eventually warm to her? Yoko spent some time at Friar Park and is actually a good friend of Olivia's. I think the times called for every one being a little ill-at-ease, and I don't really blame any of them for that. Ringo was always the most easygoing, though. Bless his heart.
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I agree with everybodys opinion except -

I feel she wore the pants in that relationship. She was the boss, but hey,,,my wife is the same way.

I dont dislike her, but I still wonder what may have happened. It could have been said about any of the other mates too, I suppose.


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I agree with everything everyones said. I think she should have kept her place in the relationship and let the Beatles do their own thing.. It's a shame


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Quoted from broady, posted July 10, 2004, 4:41am at here
I agree with everything everyones said. I think she should have kept her place in the relationship and let the Beatles do their own thing.. It's a shame


She was an intrusion on their work world.  But JOHN is the one to blame,  He used her as a passive/aggressive wedge to ultimately break away from the group.  HE is the one who brought her to the sessions.

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I agree 100% with Mr. Charlie, despite my point being made into several paragraphs of posts and him saying everything in just two sentences.
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misterchaz
July 11, 2004, 12:17am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Runforyourlife, posted July 10, 2004, 7:32pm at here
I agree 100% with Mr. Charlie, despite my point being made into several paragraphs of posts and him saying everything in just two sentences.


Hm.

Then it must have been ME agreeing 100% with YOU.

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