Quoted from misterchaz, posted June 6, 2004, 2:50am at here

Ah.  OK.  I do the same thing.  Like with John Lennon videos or songs like Beautiful Boy...just knowing when it was released how full of hope for the future he was and how cruelly it was dashed away.

Yup, many of Lennon's later songs are way hard to listen to and make me not only sad but angry.
Going back to the first part of this thread, I hope they do make a movie about Moon, but I'm still waiting for a good movie about the Beatles!  I mean a real movie, not that garbage they've put out so far. I don't know, I'm sure a lot of people don't like those kind of movies, but I'm a sucker for them. I HATED the one about the Doors though. Keep Oliver Stone away from anything Beatles or Keith related!

I thought the Doors movie was great. What wasnt there to like?

Everything! For me anyway. They played him like just a drunken fool and nothing more. There was no real story and WHAT was that whole indian thing? When I see a biograpy type movie, I want it to be as real as possible. I feel like that movie was mostly fiction. And I couldn't stand Val Kilmer as Morrison. No way does he come close to being as gorgeous as Jim. I would have liked Jason Patrick. He was a dead ringer for the guy. Oh, and Meg Ryan as Pamela???? I just don't see it. But oh well! I'm glad someone enjoyed it!

Quoted from Maccalvr, posted June 10, 2004, 1:02am at here

Everything! For me anyway. They played him like just a drunken fool and nothing more. There was no real story and WHAT was that whole indian thing? When I see a biograpy type movie, I want it to be as real as possible. I feel like that movie was mostly fiction. And I couldn't stand Val Kilmer as Morrison. No way does he come close to being as gorgeous as Jim. I would have liked Jason Patrick. He was a dead ringer for the guy. Oh, and Meg Ryan as Pamela???? I just don't see it. But oh well! I'm glad someone enjoyed it!

Well, I guess we disagree. First off, Val Kilmer looked more like Jim Morrison than Jim did. As for Meg Ryan,,,,shes an 'A' list actress that I thought did a good job. The indian stuff i'm not real sure of and i've never really read any biography or memoirs about Jim, but the drinking and drug taking seems to fit his persona. I mean, dying at 28 years of age isnt normal, and enough people that hung around him (Grace Slick and Jefferson Airplane, the Doors, etc,,,) pretty much stated that the guy was wasted most of the time. Oh well, I really liked it and most of my friends and people i've talked to seemed to also enjoy it. To each their own. Its all good.

Yup, we disagree. But like you say, to each his own! I think their might have been slighty more to Jim than just being an alcoholic even if he did die at 27. Even the guys in his own band denounced the movie after it came out saying a lot was made up. And his ex-girlfriend said it was just one giant music video with no substance and not accurate. But that's besides the point. I just didnt enjoy it and other people did. Like any other movie I guess.

I was an extra in the Doors movie (and no you can't see me, my best stuff ended up on the cutting room floor).  When he swings on a rope onto the stage then jumps into the crowd in a crucifixion pose.  Eight hours, 500 people, 5 cameras and a LOT of money and retakes for that 32 second bit.  No WONDER movies cost millions to make!

Val Kilmer was spooky, he looked so much like Morrison.  He did an exceptional job of capturing both the look and the kind of sly wicked way of the man.

However Stone DID make it into a sleazy sort of anti-drug movie and between the script and the way Morrison was portrayed (as maccalvr says, wasted all the time) WAS awful.

The Indian thing is something Jim did claim happened to him when he was young and always felt a connection to that culture ever since.  It was mixed with the peyote/psychedelic sort of lifestyle he lived (tho the Indians used it for worshipping purposes, not recreation).

Jim WAS a guy who liked to punk people, and that is a real enough persona in the movie.  Stone had him be a wasted buffoon too often tho, which was not accurate.  He was a sensitive artist who had a penchant for self-destruction unfortunately.  But on the way he produced some brilliant stuff.

But on the whole the movie is depressing and hard to watch because of the way it was written and directed, i.e. badly.

The actors were good, tho Meg Ryan did seem like a kind of severe miscasting.

Interesting. I like Val Kilmer as an actor now, but at the time I hated him. So I guess that had something to do with me not liking the film. Although I really have a hard time watching it because it's so bad. I can't seem to get through it. I don't see Val's resemblence to Jim. Maybe it's because I was obsessed w/ Morrison for most of my teenage years, had his face plastered all over my walls, bought every book and video about him and watched them constantly, so I know every nook and cranny on that face! Val just didn't cut it for me. I know they made him up really well, but I'm too picky to accept it I guess! Again, Jason Patric would have been perfect. Val did get the voice down though! Very convincing.

back to keith remember the goldfish in his drum that one year???

Yea, back to Keith!!! Goldfish in the drum? Ha! I hadn't heard about that one. Did the drum actually work? Sheesh, they've gotta make a movie about this guy!
Anyway, one question. How on earth did he go from this

to this in less than a decade?
This should be the advertisment for Alcoholics Anonymous.

Quoted from pc31, posted June 11, 2004, 2:37am at here

back to keith remember the goldfish in his drum that one year???

Man, forgot about that. I need to find pictures of that somewhere.

Here's a site that has a link to the video of him playing the famous Goldfish Drums! He was really a funny guy.
http://www.drumdogs.com/message-board-forum/about1712.html

Quoted from Maccalvr, posted June 11, 2004, 3:07am at here

Yea, back to Keith!!! Goldfish in the drum? Ha! I hadn't heard about that one. Did the drum actually work? Sheesh, they've gotta make a movie about this guy!
Anyway, one question. How on earth did he go from this

to this in less than a decade?
This should be the advertisment for Alcoholics Anonymous.

he changed most notably after he accidently ran over his chaffeur.he was wild b4 that but was really wild after that.....he was the wildest drummer

Has anyone ever heard Keith sing? I was thinking of buying his solo album. I think he sings a Beatle song on it. I've heard him do Barbara Anne which I liked but that's it.

Happy Jack Love the shirt.

Okay, I know this is a wierd place to put this question, but oh well!!! (It does have to do with drumming and he IS a drummer!!) Anyway:
Who do you think are the five top drummers of all time and WHY! I'm really curious about this as I've never really given it much thought before. I'm just starting to realize how important these guy really are to the music!!

Here are my personal choices in no particular order:

Ringo Starr
Ginger Baker
Keith Moon
Clement Burke
Dave Grohl