Ringo was the best drummer in the Liverpool area. He's a great drummer, we just didn't get to see him show off in the days of Beatlemania touring, but he always kept a great beat, and that solo in "The End" is my all time favorite drum solo.
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I telll you something, he was an awesome drummer. He allowed the space for the others to enrich. I've played a few Beatle songs in my time and any drummer that really, really tried to get his style has had a tough time. He has great elements of jazz and the time changing that he had to do with Beatles stuff is far removed from the boring 4 on the floor formatt that so many 'amazing' drummers champion themselves and show off with.
He had great expression without having to do the 'Thunder rolls". Not detracting from the other amazing drummers like Moony, Mitchell and Bonham.
The Beatles as a whole band had the art of writing and recording perfectly imperfect! I think that will make sense to any beatle lover who really does sleep with headphones on and panning to one side! lol!
As a drummer (thanks to Ringo's inspiration) I can unequivocally declare: yes...he is indeed an amazing drummer, for many reasons.
His childhood full of debilitating illness...playing drums, while therapy, is still a rather strenuous activity.
He was the best drummer in Liverpool at the time according to many sources, including the Beatles.
He brought personality & a common man quality to the group at the start which helped propel them to fame.
He was able to play Latin (I Feel Fine) pop, rock, and various time signatures one after another (All You Need Is Love, Happiness Is A Warm Gun, etc.) which is difficult to do and do well.
He virtually invented (or perhaps more to the point brought to the fore) the open hi-hat technique that gave a solid wash of cymbals to the backing of a song. Rocking!
He had a strong back beat (bass drum) that brought that aspect to the fore as well.
He inspired countless, countless people to take up drums, many of whom went on to fame themselves.
Songs of note: Rain (his favorite), A Day In The Life (the fills he did were absolutely perfect, and no one would have ever played them as musically as that), The End (Abbey Road), She Said She Said, and many more. His inventive yet supportive style and laid back personality was perfect for the Beatles. No other drummer could have added so much.
Technical ability is nothing without feeling, without empathy and understanding. And maybe some love. And he brought all that and more to the group.
He was *never* a lesser member than anyone else. It was a four poster bed and he held up his end as much as anyone else.
Quoted from Hannah, posted July 10, 2004, 7:45am at here
he's okay, but I like keith moon better. *blush*
Me too! He's more interesting to watch. But Ringo was perfect for the Beatles. He brought a sensitivity to the band. Or something like that. Funny how his son sort of replaced Moonie. Now I hear he's joining Oasis? Or is that a rumor.
I don't know if I would call him amazing. Amazing and Ringo? It doesn't really fit. I mean he's good and all but amazing? Would anyone consider him an innovater or creative in his drumming? Seriously because I don't know the technicalities of drumming so maybe he was. Who knows.
Now as for Keith Moon.... Glad to see there are others that appreciate him!
Quoted from Maccalvr, posted July 11, 2004, 5:26am at here
I don't know if I would call him amazing. Amazing and Ringo? It doesn't really fit. I mean he's good and all but amazing? Would anyone consider him an innovater or creative in his drumming?
****Yes! I even gave you examples. That's *exactly* what he was....a creative innovator.
Now as for Keith Moon.... Glad to see there are others that appreciate him!
***Moon was great at what he did as well. But him being good shouldn't diminish Ringo's being good. They were totally different types of drummers, which is obvious since Keith was different from all the others, except maybe Mitch Mitchell.
Oh, I don't think Keith being good takes away from Ringo being good. It's just more obvious with Keith as he was more out there. Well I mean for non-drummers that is. I was seriously asking about Ringo being an innovator! No sarcasm was intended! But I should have read your previous post more carefully!!! Sorry! The whole cymbal thing Ringo did is certainly important. Moon lived on the cymbals! Yay Ringo!
Quoted from Maccalvr, posted July 11, 2004, 6:08am at here
Oh, I don't think Keith being good takes away from Ringo being good. It's just more obvious with Keith as he was more out there. Well I mean for non-drummers that is. I was seriously asking about Ringo being an innovator! No sarcasm was intended! But I should have read your previous post more carefully!!! Sorry! The whole cymbal thing Ringo did is certainly important. Moon lived on the cymbals! Yay Ringo!
Sorry... I didn't mean to put you in a spot of feeling like apologizing...
I was taught how to drum by Ringo but I ended up being more of a Keith drummer, back when there weren't many (there's more now obviously). I was hot in the 60's. Now it's kind of passe'.
Keith was important to the Who because he needed to fill the space and gaps, given that there were only 3 instruments.
Ringo's group didn't need that kind of frantic playing.
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