Quoted from Buttmunker

you will never find anything in any of their solo albums that can compare to the worst of what was recorded as Beatles.  

Thats the biggest bunch of bullshit i've ever heard. This coming from somebody who only has a couple greatest hits albums. Give me a freakin break.

Quoted from Buttmunker

Let me save you some time and effort with this following statement: you will never find anything in any of their solo albums that can compare to the worst of what was recorded as Beatles.  Once you know and understand that, the search and appreciation for their four solo works will be easier.

I agree with you about Lennon's solo work.  In regards to "good McCartney," I'm afraid I'm going to have to respond from what I know of Macca's solo work: strictly the hits.  I'll admit it: i've never ventured into Album Cuts.  I started with All The Best from the late 80's, but for you: Wingspan would be the easiest choice.  

Oh, and find Mull of Kintyre - a terrific Paul song!

Apart from this statement being crass and uninformed, did you have to drag up a three year old thread just so you could have your rant? The person who started it isn't even around here anymore!

i love digging old things up but thats another point. buttmunkers remark is not even worth reading. how can you say that love me do is a far better song than maybe im amazed, imagine or all things must pass.

Quoted from 748

i love digging old things up but thats another point. buttmunkers remark is not even worth reading. how can you say that love me do is a far better song than maybe im amazed, imagine or all things must pass.

The thing that annoys me about statements like that, apart from the fact that it's totally uninformed, is that anyone looking around and thinking about joining is going to think that we know sod all! I think we could do with one or two more knowledgeable 'oldies' on here, and that sort of nonsense will send them running.

Btw, got any truffles?

here you go. help yourself

whoa, dat bad ol puddy tat mad at me!

Listen, it has always been my belief that 'greatest hits' albums are supposed to represent "the best of the best," out of their wealth of material.  I didn't say any of their four solo efforts didn't contain good songs, but I'm just saying that what's represented as their best don't never come close to being Beatle-Caliber.  I know all about group dynamics and such, but c'mon - Paul basically told George what to play, and George played it.  Paul wasn't interested in what George might come up with on his own, Paul wanted his songs played a certain way, and that was that.  Paul probably did the same thing with the members of Wings, but to a much larger extent.  So Paul was the driving force on virtually all his songs, what does a 'band dynamic' have to do with that?

Also, if I think their stuff from their 'greatest hits' is merely okay, why would I think I'd find better songs on their 'album cuts,' songs that weren't deemed good enough to be singles or played on the radio?  Even Beatles songs that weren't singles were still sometimes played on the radio - same with other artists.  I honestly gauge an artist's worth by what's represented on a collection - i'm not saying that's right, but its what I do.  And so do a lot of people.

When I was younger, I used to think that an album by Paul McCartney/Wings had to be as good as a Beatles album, just that it was absent the other three guys.  I learned I was wrong to think that, and it had nothing to do with them being a band - but maybe it had a little to do with Ying and Yang between Paul and John - the competition thing.  But, when you think about it, wouldn't that competition thing still exist, even though they're recording separately in the 70's?  John's music lacked a "crispness;" Paul's music lacked a "I-don't-know-what" - lack of respectability?  That sounds harsh, but songs like "My Love," while pretty and melodic, is almost a parody of what he did as a Beatle.

And look, I don't keep inventory of the members who come and go around here, so my revisiting an older thread has more to do with not repeating what the board has already gone through than it is of keeping track of active people.

Remember that my opinions are just opinions - I'm not stating facts, I'm just an ordinary joe who loves the Beatles and wishes that kind of magic had transferred into four parts when they disbanded.  It didn't.  That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

Quoted from Buttmunker

Listen, it has always been my belief that 'greatest hits' albums are supposed to represent "the best of the best," out of their wealth of material.  I didn't say any of their four solo efforts didn't contain good songs, but I'm just saying that what's represented as their best don't never come close to being Beatle-Caliber.

You actually said this:

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Let me save you some time and effort with this following statement: you will never find anything in any of their solo albums that can compare to the worst of what was recorded as Beatles.

Any of their solo albums. Of course you're entitled to your own opinions, but you're clearly not qualified to force that one on anybody, as to your own admission, you haven't heard a lot of the solo albums. And that did sound like you were stating a fact!

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Quoted from Buttmunker

Let me save you some time and effort with this following statement: you will never find anything in any of their solo albums that can compare to the worst of what was recorded as Beatles.  Once you know and understand that, the search and appreciation for their four solo works will be easier.

I agree with you about Lennon's solo work.  In regards to "good McCartney," I'm afraid I'm going to have to respond from what I know of Macca's solo work: [b]strictly the hits.  I'll admit it: i've never ventured into Album Cuts.  I started with All The Best from the late 80's, but for you: Wingspan would be the easiest choice.  

Oh, and find Mull of Kintyre - a terrific Paul song!

Oh god, you're the prime example of of what NOT to do when exploring the beatles individual career. What makes it even worse is that we don't even have to point out your ignorance because you've done that yourself by saying that you haven't listened to any of the individaul albums.  Do some research before making idiotic statements like that. I bet you didn't know that there were Wings songs that other members besides Paul wrote and sang.  Just because the songs from albums didn't make it on to a greatest hit album doens't mean they are absolute crap. God man..open your mind and quit being so close minded and you will be so greatly suprised at the quality of songs that The Beatles had as individuals. Its people like you that make Paul play the same songs every tour. You won't give anything else a chance.

Quoted from Wordno

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Its people like you that make Paul play the same songs every tour. You won't give anything else a chance.

Perfect!

I'm going to take a bunch of Paul McCartney/Wings album cuts, at random, and put them on a CD.  Songs I've never heard before.  I will give you an honest accessment in about 5-7 business days.  

Will this put me back in the good graces of the forum?

what songs are going to be on your cd?

Quoted from Buttmunker

Will this put me back in the good graces of the forum?

I think so.  
If you wanna make a CD with some good Wings/Macca songs, try:
1) to include 18-22 songs, making a nearly 80-minute CD.
2) to list great-but-non-well-known singles, like 'I've Had Enough' or 'The Back Seat Of My Car', and also some b-sides, edits, remixes or whatever rare stuff you find
3) to make it chronological. You must begin with maybe 1 or 2 tracks from the 'McCartney' album, and finish with something from 'Tug Of War' or even 'Pipes of Peace', which was maybe the end of the most successful part of Macca's career.
4) to not include the big ones, sure, as you said.

Post a tracklisting and we tell you!  

Quoted from wingsman

I think so.  
If you wanna make a CD with some good Wings/Macca songs, try:
1) to include 18-22 songs, making a nearly 80-minute CD.
2) to list great-but-non-well-known singles, like 'I've Had Enough' or 'The Back Seat Of My Car', and also some b-sides, edits, remixes or whatever rare stuff you find
3) to make it chronological. You must begin with maybe 1 or 2 tracks from the 'McCartney' album, and finish with something from 'Tug Of War' or even 'Pipes of Peace', which was maybe the end of the most successful part of Macca's career.
4) to not include the big ones, sure, as you said.

Post a tracklisting and we tell you!  

lol - fine, will do.  Except, I am very well familiar with McCartney, so I'll start with Wild Life and go from there.  

Tracklisting will be forthcoming...

OK, we'll be expecting your own Twin Freaks.  

p.s. Don't forget 'Ram'. If you don't know it, begin with it!

Quoted from wingsman

OK, we'll be expecting your own Twin Freaks.  

p.s. Don't forget 'Ram'. If you don't know it, begin with it!

you are correct, sir, and I stand corrected.  How could I forget Ram, the album that Lennon hated, and essentially bambasted him for on his Imagine album (he posed with a pig, in mock initation of McCartney posing with a ram).