Quoted from Joe_Karlosi, posted July 22, 2004, 11:41pm at here

Maybe then you HAVEN'T heard the three songs I've mentioned? They're "nice" enough.
But the whole point of POB is that John wanted to discover himself and completely shatter the "nicey-nice beatles image" anyway. It's not really supposed to be that nice. I'd suggest you read his 1970 ROLLING STONE interview (available in a book as LENNON REMEMBERS) and hear John talk about the album (he thought hit was the best thing he'd ever done).



Naturally you're entitled to your opinion, but GOD is still pretty universally hailed as one of John's finest works. I don't think it's very "obvious" when John says he "doesn't believe in Beatles". That was a hell of a shock - especially then.



The word "Garbage" is what spawned a lot of my attitude, you might like to know. Whether you like the record or not, that word isn't even a possibility.

After Help!, it's not really a shock that he didn't believe in the Beatles.  He was always angry at Paul (said that Paul didn't want Harrison to have so many songs on the White Album because he wanted more Paul songs, said he'd like Something and Come Together to listen to on one album and the rest somewhere else so he wouldn't have to listen to it), so obviously he realized that this was getting to Paul's head, especially with that note he wrote to Linda and Paul.  Add in the aforementioned Help!, and it's no surprise.

Despite the fact that we are almost forced to be politically correct, no one said this country isn't free anymore.  Thus I'll call anything I want garbage.

And because the songs aren't "nice enough", I really don't think they're pleasing to the ear.  And even though I'll listen to those songs you mentioned when I get the opportunity, THREE SONGS DOESN'T SAVE AN ALBUM.

Quoted from Joe_Karlosi, posted July 22, 2004, 11:43pm at here

I made the face because I think your view of this album is hilariously off.

Also, I think YOU failed to read all of MY post previously where I just explained how I DID, in fact, read all of your writing before I laughed. It's just that I chose to highlight the one line when I responded. 

You made that face in response to my "I know more than some adults" comment.  The minute you start laughing at age and patronize, you mess with the bull and will get the horns and WILL be called an ignorant prick.  You're a horrible liar.

And anyone can easily reread a post after someone is accused of being trigger-happy and jumping into a conversation after reading one line of a post.  That's what I think you probably did, and there ain't anyway you'll be proving otherwise.  I can make the same kinda faces, too.

And the album is still garbage.

I'd like to thank Frightwolf for giving so many of us a laugh!

Pal, you can call it garbage - but that doesn't make it so.

I'd go back and read what Joe has written: he does know what he's talking about.

Quoted from Maria, posted July 22, 2004, 11:53pm at here

I'd like to thank Frightwolf for giving so many of us a laugh!

Pal, you can call it garbage - but that doesn't make it so.

I'd go back and read what Joe has written: he does know what he's talking about.

I'd like to thank you for being so honest, yet just as idiotic. 

Pal, you can call it great - but that doesn't make it so.  Don't be sardonic with me.

Whats wtf?

Thanks, Maria

As for Political Correctness, you don't even WANT to go there with me, believe me, Frightwolf! I am the greatest hater of PC you'll ever meet, and I think it's ruining our country. So I certainly wasn't challenging your right to use the word "garbage" - but rather saying it just doesn't fit the album. And we all think you're quite entertaining

I think your thread is "garbage". 

The Wolfs barking and I love it! If Fright doesnt like the album,,,,,so be it. Different tastes for different people. BUT,,,,I will have to say that some ridicule had to be expected when you throw the term 'garbage' around one of the higher respected albums of Johns.

Anyways, this is one of those threads that can be enjoyed from the sidelines. I love a good debate especially when it doesnt envolve me. 

Quoted from Frightwolf, posted July 22, 2004, 11:57pm at here

I'd like to thank you for being so honest, yet just as idiotic.  

Pal, you can call it great - but that doesn't make it so.  Don't be sardonic with me.

Just as idiotic as ... who or what? You're becoming incoherent.

Sardonic?! Look it up, and then you'll realize that you were being very sardonic from your first post in this thread! I love people who live in glass houses, and who throw stones!

Quoted from Joe_Karlosi, posted July 22, 2004, 11:59pm at here

Thanks, Maria

As for Political Correctness, you don't even WANT to go there with me, believe me, Frightwolf! I am the greatest hater of PC you'll ever meet, and I think it's ruining our country. So I certainly wasn't challenging your right to use the word "garbage" - but rather saying it just doesn't fit the album. And we all think you're quite entertaining

I think your thread is "garbage". 

Oh, I'll go there.  I really don't give a mess.  Though you're explanation of why you said that is understood and taken, I'll get into all the political correctness I want.

And your last comment made me chuckle.  You're opinion is "garbage".  Wow, I'm clever now, eh?

Quoted from Joe_Karlosi, posted July 22, 2004, 11:59pm at here

I am the greatest hater of PC you'll ever meet

What do you have against PC? I think he's a cool person. 

Quoted from tkitna, posted July 23, 2004, 12:00am at here

The Wolfs barking and I love it! If Fright doesnt like the album,,,,,so be it. Different tastes for different people. BUT,,,,I will have to say that some ridicule had to be expected when you throw the term 'garbage' around one of the higher respected albums of Johns.

Anyways, this is one of those threads that can be enjoyed from the sidelines. I love a good debate especially when it doesnt envolve me. 

Of course, but I don't care.  What are they gonna do, grab a nude pic of me?

On second thought, might wanna scan my homepage and make sure I got rid of that...

Quoted from Maria, posted July 23, 2004, 12:02am at here

Just as idiotic as ... who or what? You're becoming incoherent.

Sardonic?! Look it up, and then you'll realize that you were being very sardonic from your first post in this thread! I love people who live in glass houses, and who throw stones!

You just looked up the word on dictionary.com, didn't you? You are being sardonic, period.  And I know the word better than your ignorant a** does.

Ah, the joys of being youthful... I love the profanity! And I love how I am using it freely to express how idiotic you are.  If you couldn't understand my post, you're stupid.  End of discussion there.

As idiotic as you are honest.  Was that so hard, hun?

Quoted from Frightwolf, posted July 23, 2004, 12:04am at here

Of course, but I don't care.  What are they gonna do, grab a nude pic of me?

Oh, this is too much! I know what "rolling on the floor laughing my arse off" means now!

Quoted from Maria, posted July 23, 2004, 12:07am at here

Oh, this is too much! I know what "rolling on the floor laughing my arse off" means now!

Like this post.  Did you actually scan down and read the rest? I bet you didn't.  That was an intentional crack on myself, not a serious statement.

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And your last comment made me chuckle.  You're opinion is "garbage".  Wow, I'm clever now, eh?

No, you're not very "clever" in that post when you write "you're" instead of the proper "your". But don't lose too much sleep over it, son -- it's a common mistake many kids like you (and even some adults) make.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've wasted enough time on this with you. I've given you the criteria for listening to the album with a different understanding, and I'd still strongly advise that you listen to everything Lennon himself has said about his "greatest work" and what he was aiming for. The choice is up to you whether or not you want to try it out with some knowledge about it.

I think I'll play the CD right now ......