Joe, I'm flattered you responded to my "I dont care post" although i thought you might have picked that up,but I guess not, since you took the time address almost every quote in the post. You really should not take these posts so personal. Once again just for you Joe, I will say my original post was meant jokingly not to be taken seriously! (humor is wasted on some people) By the way I choose NOT to address your points, not because i cant keep up, but because I dont care! You can go right on thinking your sharper, but guess what? I dont care! There in lies the difference between the way I see it and the way you see it. Its almost like you took it as i was speaking of your wife/girlfriend/ fiance' or whatever you have. Let it go and you'll feel much better. I'm sure my opinions mean as much to you, as yours does to me. You see Joe, I joined this forum to have fun, talk about the Beatles, and maybe do some trading of Beatles memorabilia. I did not join to have my opinions or to turn others opinions into a battle of wits, because at the end of the day I'll see i did not change your view and you did not change my view and we both were just "Pissing in the wind" and for the last time I simply just dont care!
Quoted from Joe_Karlosi, posted August 3, 2004, 7:58pm at here
There comes a certain time when (I hope) a person matures to realizing that "love" and "What's inside" is the most important thing. Usually, the physical attraction follows that. Having said that, I'll also add that "Beauty Is In The Eye of the Beholder".
If I ever meet you Joe I'll buy you a drink. Maybe even two.
I just believe in having "discussions". I don't care for threads that go like this:
"I like John".
"I like Paul".
"I like Revolver".
"Me too. Revolver's cool".
I happen to be "passionate" about my opinions and that's about the real size of it. I believe in what I say - but by the same token, I am just as interested in everybody's opinion as I am mine. Sometimes people have convinced me to see things their way; sometimes I do the same to them. I think that's the essence of conversation. Not just listing polls and favorites. People HAVE convinced me of changing my view, and look at things differently. Sometimes, and sometimes not.
Quoted from Joe_Karlosi, posted August 4, 2004, 10:28pm at here
I just believe in having "discussions". I don't care for threads that go like this:
"I like John".
"I like Paul".
"I like Revolver".
"Me too. Revolver's cool".
I happen to be "passionate" about my opinions and that's about the real size of it. I believe in what I say - but by the same token, I am just as interested in everybody's opinion as I am mine. Sometimes people have convinced me to see things their way; sometimes I do the same to them. I think that's the essence of conversation. Not just listing polls and favorites. People HAVE convinced me of changing my view, and look at things differently. Sometimes, and sometimes not.
I agree in having threads that mean something and are intellignet. I hate polls and the "I like that too" threads, but I refuse to let it become personal the way Joe has let it. I said what I did and I was not trying to change anyones opinion to be like mine. I was however making light of the "looks" issue, like, hey does anyone remember how the media talked about Yoko and Linda's looks and how they were comparing them to Cynthia Lennon and Jane Asher? Maybe I should have phrased it that way. That is what I meant by the "sounding really superficial" comment it was a throwback to that, and I should have said it that way. The discussion, it seemed, became Joes personal cross to bare and thats ok. Lets just say that I'm just as not "passionate" about this subject as Joe and did not feel the need to turn it into a challenge. I am not going take someones post and break it down line for line, and address it with Little barbs here and there. Why should I? Its their opinion and thats cool, it may not be the same as mine but there again, thats cool. You dont have to insinuate that a person needs to "mature or "cant keep up" to give your point of view. How about trying this method, here is my thoughts, what are yours? Thats a discussion, not, you dont because you cant keep up with me or your should mature before offering a opinion. I'm very passionate about my opinions, I'm just not passionate about turning it into a conflict or a personal insult. You see Joe I have not swayed your opinion and you did not sway mine. Now we have wasted all this time and energy when we could have been discussing this subject in a "mature" manner. I would have listened to your thoughts and hope you would have listen to mine. Maybe we would agree to disagree and not spent all this time in such a negative way.
Quoted from RICKENBACKER325, posted August 4, 2004, 11:35pm at here
I agree in having threads that mean something and are intellignet. I hate polls and the "I like that too" threads, but I refuse to let it become personal the way Joe has let it. I said what I did and I was not trying to change anyones opinion to be like mine. I was however making light of the "looks" issue, like, hey does anyone remember how the media talked about Yoko and Linda's looks and how they were comparing them to Cynthia Lennon and Jane Asher? Maybe I should have phrased it that way. That is what I meant by the "sounding really superficial" comment it was a throwback to that, and I should have said it that way. The discussion, it seemed, became Joes personal cross to bare and thats ok. Lets just say that I'm just as not "passionate" about this subject as Joe and did not feel the need to turn it into a challenge. I am not going take someones post and break it down line for line, and address it with Little barbs here and there. Why should I? Its their opinion and thats cool, it may not be the same as mine but there again, thats cool. You dont have to insinuate that a person needs to "mature or "cant keep up" to give your point of view. How about trying this method, here is my thoughts, what are yours? Thats a discussion, not, you dont because you cant keep up with me or your should mature before offering a opinion. I'm very passionate about my opinions, I'm just not passionate about turning it into a conflict or a personal insult. You see Joe I have not swayed your opinion and you did not sway mine. Now we have wasted all this time and energy when we could have been discussing this subject in a "mature" manner. I would have listened to your thoughts and hope you would have listen to mine. Maybe we would agree to disagree and not spent all this time in such a negative way.
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Quoted from misterchaz, posted August 2, 2004, 2:26pm at here
Please. This was a far more vile crapfest than Seaman's ever was. There is so much false information in this book. It is a hit piece from a disillusioned homosexual. Goldman is frying in hell somewhere (he pulled the same stunt with Elvis and Lenny Bruce).
Fair play to you guys. (Here Comes The sun). I'm merely saying that the book was informative. I still remember reading and enjoying the wonder of the Beatles and their lives. It was'nt a promotion of the book. Infact it was making aware to The End that it was infact a controversial book and that there were disturbing allegations. Not getting into rows but feel I got read out of context there. I never read but heard about his biography about Elvis. It's a shame that he felt he had to slander to get sales. Sad man.
Maria, I do care when it becomes personal and tries to show the other person as intellectual underling. However, I dont care to be drawn into a personal challege. Indica Walrus, thank you. I hope I explained my views better this time.
Quoted from An_Apple_Beatle, posted August 5, 2004, 9:52am at here
Fair play to you guys. (Here Comes The sun). I'm merely saying that the book was informative. I still remember reading and enjoying the wonder of the Beatles and their lives. It was'nt a promotion of the book. Infact it was making aware to The End that it was infact a controversial book and that there were disturbing allegations. Not getting into rows but feel I got read out of context there. I never read but heard about his biography about Elvis. It's a shame that he felt he had to slander to get sales. Sad man.
Well, for what it's worth, I certainly wasn't blasting you. My visceral reaction is and always will be reserved for Seaman, Goldman and Guiliano. Vultures and liars. Someone who is NOT aware of the bogus info needs to be alerted, otherwise...one can read whatever amuses them I suppose.
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