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Sandra
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Does anyone know how many there were and which songs? Which song is supposed to have F you like Superman and is that even true? Just wondering. My knowledge on this subject is limited!


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On the UK Pepper it had a blurb (released on Anthology) that was a mishmash of sounds and voices.  It is about 2 seconds and was put into the record's runout groove so it would repeat forever or until you or the turntable lifted the tonearm.

It did NOT say 'f*** you like superman', in fact it doesn't 'say' anything.  Many people have heard many different things because it was a collection of noises and sounds as noted above. 

Backwards?  All of Rev #9.  Horrendous car crash, Paul yelling, sirens, people running and yelling, turn me on dead man...it is all there.  On purpose?  Beats me, I don't believe Paul is dead (yet).  But it is pretty spooky to listen to.

Between I'm So Tired and Blackbird is John speaking (recorded backwards) and it *sounds* like 'Paul is dead man miss him miss him miss him.'  Primarily because that's what we've been told to hear so the brain agrees.  It IS close tho, closer than the 'superman' hype.

There's more of course, but not much of any real consequence.
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Thanks! So no F- you like superman ay? Heh! That would be kind of out there. It sucks that you can't do the whol backwards things on CD's. I mean, people just discovering the Beatles won't get to have the fun of trying to hear these messages for themselves. I mean, it is kinda part of the whole Beatles experience. Sort of. Although I suppose you can download them or something. Just not the same thing though!


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There are freeware sound recorder programs that have Reverse settings.  One click and you can hear the whole song backwards, with perfect speed control.

Better than a finger on a turntable (wobble wobble).

One is Audacity, which is a bit involved for a total neophyte but an -excellent- free audio editing program from http://audacity.sourceforge.net

Once the program is installed you "import audio" from the Project menu (basically load a sound file), go to the Effects menu, click Reverse and play.  Quite simple really.


BTW: I wake screaming in the night and recall it was a dream about your avatars. 

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AAAAAHHHHH!!! THIS NEW ONE BLINKED AT ME!  ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL US ALL MISSS MACCA.??


Yeah it is kinda hard to hear backwards messages these days.  I downloaded them all of a Paul is Dead site, but it would have been fun to try and find them for myself.



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At least he has eyes!!

Charlie thanks for the link. I downloaded it but now I guess I have to download some songs! The f-you superman one isn't in a song though? Or did I misunderstand?


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Quoted from Maccalvr, posted September 5, 2004, 12:43am at here
The f-you superman one isn't in a song though? Or did I misunderstand?


It's at the VERY end of the Sgt Pepper album.


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So what would you download? A Day in the Life? That's the last song. The ironic part is that I actually have the album but no record player to play it on! Oh well.


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It's not ON the US record.  It is on the UK version, along with the dog whistle.

You don't have the Pepper CD?  There is a clip of it at the very end of the CD.

That you don't listen to backwards, you just listen to it to imagine hearing favorite superheroes copulating.

Rev 9 tho...and that would be a long a** download (unless you're on broadband).  Or unless you have the White Album.
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Okay! Thanks for the clarification. Sorry for my ignorance on the subject! I actually don't have the CD yet. I don't know why I haven't gotten it yet!


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Quoted from Maccalvr, posted September 5, 2004, 4:37am at here
Okay! Thanks for the clarification. Sorry for my ignorance on the subject! I actually don't have the CD yet. I don't know why I haven't gotten it yet!


I wasn't being peeved, I like using capital letters to stress a word.  Or maybe I'll use *'s or dashes.

ANyway, there is no ignorance here, just not informed yet.

Still.  I just don't want to piss you off and have you send some bad mojo avatar to my house.


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I wouldn't do that!






Charlie...open the dooooor.


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AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









(I like it here under my couch.  It's dark and safe.  And not just a little dusty.)
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Another man cowering in fear! My work is done.


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Quoted from Maccalvr, posted September 5, 2004, 12:54am at here
So what would you download? A Day in the Life? That's the last song.


If you downloaded the track you probably wouldn't get the backwards bit - I'll upload it for you and along with the backwards version.


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Quoted from misterchaz, posted September 4, 2004, 6:26am at here

It did NOT say 'f*** you like superman', in fact it doesn't 'say' anything.  Many people have heard many different things because it was a collection of noises and sounds as noted above..


According to Paul in his biography "Many years from now", it does say something, They put "couldn't have been any other way, couldn't have been any other way", but then, playing it backwards, it was clear: "We'll f*** you like Supermen".



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Yes, he does say that, you are correct.  Although in other interviews he says something different. 

It does not say the superman bit. Backwards OR forwards.  That was something that was heard by others and Paul professed amazement.  For years it was also supposed to be saying '...this is the ending of the wax...'.

Just Beatle-mania.
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I've uploaded it - now you can hear it forwards AND backwards... let the arguments commence!!!

http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/pepper.html


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To me it sounds like John saying "never could see any", then Paul saying "other way", with someone going, "bah-ba-bah" in the background. Any other thoughts?


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Forward it definately sounds like that to me too Alan.  But backwards i think it sounds more like "Will Paul come back as superman?"



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We share the same ears, Tim!


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Uh-oh.  Then where'd my cuetip go.



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Thank you Alan you are SO cool! I agree with the forwards thing. Backwards it sounds like "I will uh you like a superman." I definatly hear superman. Awesome.


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Quoted from Maccalvr, posted September 6, 2004, 6:10am at here
Thank you Alan you are SO cool!


Gee thanks! 


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Quoted from Herecomesyoursun, posted September 6, 2004, 12:49am at here
Uh-oh.   Then where'd my cuetip go.



LOL!

Good thing you don't have the same butt!
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Quoted from The_End, posted September 6, 2004, 12:32am at here
I've uploaded it - now you can hear it forwards AND backwards... let the arguments commence!!!

http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/pepper.html


I hear
          : forwards 
                           
                               'I never could see any other one'

          : backwards 
                       
                               'we'll *uck you like you're supermen'.
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To be honest, I think you can train your ears to hear any of these variations.


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Quoted from The_End, posted September 6, 2004, 9:15pm at here
To be honest, I think you can train your ears to hear any of these variations.


My point exactly.

If Paul said in his book (and he does) that what was actually said was 'couldn't have been any other way' as Sadie4 provided, and in lieu of an absence of any other evidence...then that's what was said, frontwards, regardless of what it sounds like to different people.  And backwards it says nothing.

Once the phrases get around that 'this is what is said' the ear natuarally goes to that.  If you were not told beforehand what to listen for there would be wildly varying interpretations.  IMO (since I have no scientfic study to prove it).

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John saying Cranberry sauce?
Up until it was revealed to be cranberry sauce, I thought I heard
I buried Paul.
It's true, you do hear what you're told you'll hear.
Still sounds more like I buried Paul than cranberry sauce to me.


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John: Are ya?
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What is the song where they say "Paul is Dead" lots of times when played backwards?
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You SURE it's not on the NA one? I heard it on CHUM-FM in 1974 or so, on the Larry Green show...

You REALLY SURE???

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Quoted from Mendips, posted September 6, 2004, 11:01pm at here
John saying Cranberry sauce?
Up until it was revealed to be cranberry sauce, I thought I heard
I buried Paul.
It's true, you do hear what you're told you'll hear.
Still sounds more like I buried Paul than cranberry sauce to me.



Exactly.  Audiol illusion. (I made that up!)

I always heard I buried Paul too, and when I read he'd said 'cranberry sauce' I didn't believe it because I could hear it (after years of conditioning myself to hear the buried line).  Once I finally heard the outtakes, where the voice doesn't fade and where there are fewer instruments in the way, it is CLEAR that he says 'cranberry sauce', not once but twice. 


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Backward message at the end of

I'm so Tired?


Mister Charlie, is it just John mumbling or is it anything that sounds like the rumored

Paul is dead, miss him miss him?


(I'm sure this was discussed elsewhere before but since I'm pretty new I didn't see it, so please forgive me)


John: You're just a lonely old man from Liverpool.
Grandfather: But I'm clean!
John: Are ya?
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i dont know. my dad told me about this once and he didnt know when i asked him a few minutes ago, so i thought you guys might know.
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HI DR NICK!!! (sry somebuddy had to do it)

Ive always thought the backwards one at the end of Im so tired did sound a lot like "Paul is a dead man, miss him miss him".  I wish i could post a link to a Paul is Dead site i was at, it had all the backwards messages there for you to hear.  Sometimes the messages werent even backwards, I mean "The Walrus was Paul",



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hehe.


maybe he said that I am the walrus is the song where it says that backwards.
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Quoted from Mendips, posted September 7, 2004, 1:46am at here
Backward message at the end of

I'm so Tired?


Mister Charlie, is it just John mumbling or is it anything that sounds like the rumored

Paul is dead, miss him miss him?


(I'm sure this was discussed elsewhere before but since I'm pretty new I didn't see it, so please forgive me)


I believe he was just mumbling John-isms, but this one realy DOES sounds like it...again, probably because one expects to hear it...but it is not in any way fashioned to do so...it doesn't sound like him clearly saying the words, it's backwards and tentative.  But cooll I guess.

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Well then what did the Beatles actually admit to doing? I mean, there's just too many coincidences!


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Quoted from Maccalvr, posted September 7, 2004, 3:03am at here
Well then what did the Beatles actually admit to doing? I mean, there's just too many coincidences!


Not really.  It's only when people start to spread rumors of interpretations rather than facts.  That's the whole point of Glass Onion, a slap at the fans who keep playing the label backwards looking for clues to...what?  The secret of life?

Sometimes in life there are simple coincindences.  Yes.

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Right. I suppose. Their music so overanalyzed you can come up with just about anything.


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Quoted from Maccalvr, posted September 7, 2004, 3:16am at here
Right. I suppose. Their music so overanalyzed you can come up with just about anything.


Sorry, I don't mean to depress you.  The *idea* of a planned Beatle conspiracy IS cool.  It just didn't happen.  They were as surprised as anyone over many of the stories attached to what was for them just songs.

It WAS a time where they seemed as if they might know more than the rest of us, they were so on the vanguard of everything.  There was NO ONE bigger than them in the 60's.  They WERE such a part of the times, musically as well as socialogically, that it is not at all surprising the urban legends and folklore and theories began...almost like a religion or something.  Only their very public and final dissolution stemmed the tide of new sects rising up.

I blther on far too much.  The backwards stuff is cool, a lot of it IS there, you can hear it.  Did they put it there on purpose?  According to them, no.  But it still gives me goosebumps when I head 'turn me on deadman'...it DOES say it, clearly, and how in the world anyone then, especially with that technology, could create that effect is impossible.  A creep coincidence.

Let me ask you this:  you seem a bit disappointed about my take on this (which is fine)...did you invest a lot of belief in these things?

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