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Wonderwall
September 27, 2004, 11:18pm Report to Moderator

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  I agree Help! is really a great album and goes unnoticed.  The songs are just as good as those on Rubber Soul but the sound is a bit more stripped.  To me I think the way the songs were mixed to cd gives it a much 'dry' edge.  I think George Martin did a totally new mix for Help! and Rubber Soul in stereo for their cd release. For some reason I dont think the songs on Help! were transfered well on cd.  Thast's my opinon anyway..
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You Like Me Too Much is one of my all time favorites! 
And I ADORE Tell Me What You See.





Help is definitely underrated!


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I feel Help is still, by any strectch of the imagination..a classic Album.
But when comparing it to other Beatle Albums such as Rubber Soul etc ..The package seems slightly weak.
I see Help as the end of Beatlemania, a firm Winkle stomp, crushing the screaming culture which developed from earlier smash hits like With the Beatles & A Hard Days Night.
With this inevitable end, we also see glimmer of whats to come, which creates a better footing for Help when defending it.
The Dope nature of Help has not fully saturated the mood of the Album (unlike the follow up - Rubber Soul)..but again, the listener can see shades of future mind-sets.

This in itself, makes Help a fascinating listen.


Whats the matter lads? Blue Meanies?

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Quoted from Mendips, posted September 30, 2004, 12:03pm at here
I ADORE Tell Me What You See.


I love the way Paul and John blend their voices on this track - "Look in to these eyes now..."


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Quoted from IndicaWalrus, posted September 30, 2004, 3:02pm at here
I see Help as the end of Beatlemania.


I've always thought something similar to this. I think help is like the transition album, from Beatlemania to moer psychedelic lyrics. It's like the album that belongs to no period, it's in between changes or something...



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I like Help, all the songs are excellent except for the covers.
George's songs are beatiful



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You need to bear in mind that the British release's and American release's of albums were WAY different until the magical days of CD's..........

To answer your question, I haven't a clue. Help was never under rated by me, so I don't know what other people think.  Oft times, I don't care what other people think.

I like every song from the Help Soundtrack album.  Every one.  It's a great album! the Beatles never made a 'Bad' album that I've heard.
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Quoted from IndicaWalrus, posted September 30, 2004, 3:02pm at here
I feel Help is still, by any strectch of the imagination..a classic Album.
But when comparing it to other Beatle Albums such as Rubber Soul etc ..The package seems slightly weak.
I see Help as the end of Beatlemania, a firm Winkle stomp, crushing the screaming culture which developed from earlier smash hits like With the Beatles & A Hard Days Night.
With this inevitable end, we also see glimmer of whats to come, which creates a better footing for Help when defending it.
The Dope nature of Help has not fully saturated the mood of the Album (unlike the follow up - Rubber Soul)..but again, the listener can see shades of future mind-sets.

I think you are over anylizing the whole thing.

Actually, to be more blunt......I have no Idea what you're talking about.

What song off the HELP album was less than par?

This in itself, makes Help a fascinating listen.


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Indica
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I didnt say less than par*, more of a change in direction, which ultimately meant the sound and attitude would change.
When I used the word Weak* I meant in terms of conceptualism, which only fully emerges around Rubber Soul.

Im not over analysing at all, more looking beyond the attitude of 'its fab', and trying to pull out theories and opinions in why is might be seen as underrated.


Whats the matter lads? Blue Meanies?

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I don't think the record is weak. There are "better" ercords, according to opinions, and "worse" records, but that's all.


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I think it is definately underrated, but could have been even better with the inclusion of Yes It Is, I`m Down and Leave My Kitten Alone. And maybe take a couple off which I`m not too keen on   


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The fact that this lp was a soundtrack to a movie hurts its credibility! Yea there's awsome songs on it but compared to Beatle lps that were not soundtracks it comes up short! The instrumentals hurt the lp! THere are some excellent songs on this lp! I love the album myself but I don't think it comes to mind when talking about great Beatle lps!
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Somewhat underrated, yep ... but it's not the only one!  
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Here we go with this 'underated' thing again. Since when was Help! underated?

It's their second great album.


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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It's overrated.
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