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Wow - 2 welcome messages. Real community! Thanks!!!
Since I'm back, I'll reiterate... the best songs on Help hold their own with Rubber Soul/Revolver. The way they go into the bridge (middle section) of You're Gonna Lose That Girl knocks me out.
For me, the title track, 'help' stands out loads as being on a higher platform than the other songs on the album- and I reckon that song alone brings the whole album up to a higher credibility (if that's a word)
I think it's hard to tell if the album is underrated because it's one thing to compare it everything that was going on in the music field at the time- like albums by other artists but it's quite another to compare it to the Beatle's other albums. I guess it comes down to personal preference and it seems that most people's personal opinions are that rubber soul, revolver and pepper were 'better'. I'm afraid I would be inclined to agree that rubber soul was 'better' in my opinion- I can't get over how modern it still sounds!
So basically I'm saying Help is more overlooked than underrated. I think it gets more a lack of praise rather than bad praise? From what I've seen anyway.
By the way, about Lennon's favourite songs which were discussed earlier in the thread, just to mention that I've read that he liked 'Across the Universe' (he described it as poetry, and a song which was written kind of 'through' him- it wasn't actually him writing it) and 'Come Together' (just read this somewhere)
But every so often you come across something truly inspiring...
^I've never cared much for Help the song. IMO one of John's least successful attempts at being Dylan. The melody is boring by Beatle standards. Everyone gets a bit gushy about the lyric because it's not an obvious boy-girl song, but I think they lack any poetry or charm and are ploddy . A bit self pitying as well, and I don't like John when he goes down that road. The arrangement is dull and unimaginative. I donta like it at all. You've Got To Hide Your Love away - now there's a song that could be comfy on Revolver. I can't hear Help there. I think Help! the album has some great songs on it that wouldn't be wrong on Rubber Soul. But something is definately missing that reduces it's impact as an album. It needs a little spark. God bless dope.
^I've never cared much for Help the song. IMO one of John's least successful attempts at being Dylan. The melody is boring by Beatle standards. Everyone gets a bit gushy about the lyric because it's not an obvious boy-girl song, but I think they lack any poetry or charm and are a ploddy . A bit self pitying as well, and I don't like John when he goes down that road. The arrangement is dull and unimaginative. I donta like it at all. You've Got To Hide Your Love away - now there's a song that could be comfy on Revolver. I can't hear Help there. I think Help! the album has some great songs on it that wouldn't be wrong on Rubber Soul. But something is definately missing that reduces it's impact as an album. It needs a little spark. God bless dope.
Fair enough I think it's the kind of nostalgicness (sorry not a word) of the lyrics for me- like talking of the past. A bit like 'In My Life' in a way. I think it's the honesty of it that I like. I guess I see what you mean with self-pitying, but I don't really mind that. But 'You've got to hide your love away' is one of my favourite Beatles songs- so theres something we do agree on.
But every so often you come across something truly inspiring...
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