I like the 70s Floyd, but they're kinda like codeine. "Is there anybody in there?" For me, the Syd Barrett songs have a life and vibrance and imagination that low-grade depressed old Roger Waters could never quite summon.
"That cat's something I can't explain."
So it's Piper for me. And the Syd Barrett solo records easily outclass the contemporary Floyd.
Basically the only time Floyd/Roger wrote with any soul was when he was writing about (and copying the lyrical style of) Syd Barrett.
Why didn't the wankers just pick him up for that gig, even if he was a crazy pain in the a**!
Syd's stuff gets annoying after a while. And he wasn't much of a singer. I like the guys stuff though and think he was very talented before he fried his brain, but the 70's Floyd is a monster. They were geniuses and the albums from the 70's are amazing. That's what made them so popular in the first place.
I really like floyd, and the only one i could really call outstanding is The Wall...it takes geniuses to have so much inspiration to get all those great ideas and make an outstanding album out of it... Waters hit the bulls-eye with that one... but animals, dark side, piper, wish you were here [..] are all great...
I would except Wish You Where Here from my earlier comments--it's rock solid. There's something human there. Probably Dave Gilmour. The problem with Roger Waters is that he's so damned predictable! What's the point of The Wall except to say that the "big star" has gotten to the point that he despises his stadium audiences and wants to spit in their faces. It's a catalog of his own dehumanization, I guess. I just find no will or desire in Rodg to rehumanize himself. No redemption song. Just condemnation of the stupid nazi-ish fans, War in general, Mrs. Thatcher. I mean, look at the magnum opus The Final Cut--written about the Falklands War! I mean, c'mon, Roger! I'm surprised he didn't do follow up on the Grenada invasion. That's why I'll have to give Gilmour credit for "Momentary Lapse of Reason"--he's edging out of fingerpointing self-absorption PF territory to something positive and humane in songs like "The Turning Away" and "Learning to Fly" even if the productions does sound a little too much like '80s Genesis.
I think Syd's got a phenomenal voice--totally unique. Who else could sing "Terrapin"? And the last lines from "Jugband Blues" or the line "Wouldn't you miss me at all" (in Dark Globe)--that's about as inside a lyric as you can get. We ain't talking pitch here--this guy's singing open, revelatory in a way that the Beatles do at their best (Lennon usually in his self-revelatory moments) or in the way Billie Holiday could inhabit a song.
Don't mean to rant--it'll always be a battle in popular music. Syd or Pink Floyd, nakedness or contrivance.
You're right about Syd's voice. He does sing with a lot of emotion and his songs are very unique and raw. I love the guy, but I do need to take a break from him every now and then. I don't know why. Dave's voice is very soft and soothing, so I could listen to him endlessly. Just preference I guess. Roger sings with a lot of emotion too though and a lot of his Floyd songs are my favorites. He learned a lot from Syd I guess.
Roger did start to repeat himself though that's for sure. Even Rick said they would be like: "Oh no not again!" because he stuck with the same subject matter. I think it was time for Floyd to split up then. I liked a couple of songs from the Division Bell, but then Dave's my favorite Floyd singer so that's not surprising. I've never heard any of Roger's solo stuff. Wonder if I should give some of it a listen.
I like Dave's voice too. Not to mention guitar. I guess Roger's just an easy target. So hatchet-faced and hun-like. I guess the ultimate problem about Pink Floyd is that they just weren't The Beatles, just like the 70s weren't the 60s.
But can't blame them for that, I guess. I guess that's the thing about Syd--if he hadn't fallen apart, maybe . . .
I've been on a Barrett kick for the past couple months. But it'll come to an end just like my Billy Joe Shaver kick did and before that my Desmond Dekker kick.
That's funny. Roger hatchet faced! On the Pink Floyd forum I go to they have a poll about the Sexiest Pink Floyd member and Roger, Syd, and Dave are all tied!! Rick's in first place. I can't figure that one out!
I was on a Syd kick a couple of months ago myself! Now it's something else. But I'm ALWAYS on a Beatles kick. That never ends.
Quoted from number14, posted January 6, 2005, 10:41pm at here
who sings wish you were here, ive never known
never checked but im pretty pretty sure it's gilmour...Waters voice is very distinctive, with a lot of emotion...listen to songs like fletcher memorial and when the tigers broke free and you hear the difference compared to some gilmour songs...