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| September 29, 2005, 6:29pm |
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Just love the violin solo at the end....Other than that, it quite often gets a skip but I don't hate it. |
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| September 29, 2005, 7:57pm |
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Whatīs there to like? |
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| September 29, 2005, 11:46pm |
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i dont realy like it, ringo is for drums not for singing
ringo is actually a decent singer and not a bad songwriter. but being a drummer and singer, especially live, is very strenuous cause you have to keep the beat, whereas guitarists can think of the tune cause more often then not the tune that they play is the same as the lyrics they're singing. drumming and singing takes some real talent, and he does it beautifully. |
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| September 29, 2005, 11:48pm |
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Quoted from somedude210
ringo is actually a decent singer and not a bad songwriter. but being a drummer and singer, especially live, is very strenuous cause you have to keep the beat, whereas guitarists can think of the tune cause more often then not the tune that they play is the same as the lyrics they're singing. drumming and singing takes some real talent, and he does it beautifully.
I see what your saying but have to dis-agree with this drum and guitar thing. The dilemma is the same for both guitarist and drummer. Knowing the melody helps both musicians. In some ways at least a drummer can just keep time (Even though Ringo had his fair share of time changes)...A guitarist can have time, pitch, harmony, melody, effects, vocals to consider all at once. Same with bass playing and singing which also takes great talent what with all the counter rythms, melodies and lyrics to remember. It just applies to any musician. I wouldn't say one is harder than the other...You get better at doing it with practice.  How you show it is a different matter...Ringo was definitely a great drummer, average (Although sincere) singer and an occasional songwriter with mates who could make them songs into something great. He is a great chorus singer. Most of his Beatle tracks are great sing-a-longs. I always remember Ringo's voice the most out of all of them in Carry That Weight. |
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| September 30, 2005, 1:24pm |
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What's there to like? Much, if you like Ringo! |
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| September 30, 2005, 1:47pm |
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I like Ringo, you know... but itīs still not a good song. |
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| September 30, 2005, 2:23pm |
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Well, Ringo wrote it in 1964. If he had recorded it earlier it might have set an earlier precedent for Ringo as a band songwriter. The Beatles might have recorded more of Ringo's own ideas. I feel that the production it got could have been better. That annoying violin! Check out the Anthology III version without the violin. There could have been some backing vocals from the other guys. The kind of production Octopus's Garden got. It seems as though they just finally said after four years 'OK, Ringo, do your song then'. They just could have paid more atention to Ringo's ideas. I suppose in that way Ringo suffered from the Lennon-McCartney domination just like George did. |
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| September 30, 2005, 2:37pm |
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I wouldn't have said suffer. lol.... Ringo and George could have always left the group and formed their own if it was that much of a problem. Obviously Lennon and McCartney are going to put a lot of time into their own compositions. Why not? |
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| September 30, 2005, 2:42pm |
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It's not a violin, it's a fiddle. |
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| September 30, 2005, 2:45pm |
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http://www.folkofthewood.com/page4779.htmHad to butt in and found this little quote from the link. Sorry Mairi.  A violin is a fiddle; a fiddle is a violin. There are no differentiating features period. The only true reason you'd call one instrument a violin and the other a fiddle is the approach...someone who plays fiddle tunes, a fiddler, will address their violin as a fiddle. |
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| September 30, 2005, 2:56pm |
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Oh yeah, I knew that. It's just that in this context it's a fiddle. In Eleanor Rigbym, they're violins. I grew up with fiddle music.  |
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| September 30, 2005, 2:59pm |
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I like the melody and Ringo singing is okay but......
The lyrics!
"You were in a car crash, And you lost your hair!"
I mean, what gives? Paul, John or George didn't say to him, "change that!?" |
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Mairi |
| September 30, 2005, 3:04pm |
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That lyric always makes me laugh. It's so bad that it's good. |
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| September 30, 2005, 3:19pm |
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Oh yeah, I knew that. It's just that in this context it's a fiddle. In Eleanor Rigbym, they're violins. I grew up with fiddle music. 
It's a debate I have had a few times in the past with friends so I thought I'd highlight it. I know a few fiddlers who would hate to be called a violinist. lol |
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