Concering the two disc Rock and Roll Music, I agree that the two discs weren't counted together as one, however I know the RIAA only counts a two disc set as two units if the overall time is over 100 minutes. Granted, I don't think either of the band's two double album hits releases run that long, or the White Album for that matter, so I think the RIAA must have set the bar lower for releases on vinyl (as I don't think they could even hold 100 minutes without really sacrificing sound quality). Plus, there's a chance that they transfered some of the excess sales to the certification of the separate volumes that it eventually spawned. For now, I'll leave at 1,000,000 units without counting it as a two disc set.
The 'Love Songs' release, on the other hand, was certified for a million in sells in 1997....then suddenly jumped to 3,000,000 in 2000, so I'm figuring that 1,500,000 of the two disc sets were sold, and they managed to count it as a double album.
I updated all of the stats and here's where we are at so far:
Gold Albums: 43 Platinum Albums: 38
Gold Singles: 24 (21 are million sellers) Platinum Singles: 6
In Print:
Abbey Road - 12 Million Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 11 Million The Beatles - 9.5 Million (for a total of 19 million units) 1 - 9 Million 1967-1970 - 8 Million (for a total of 16 million units) 1962-1966 - 7.5 million (for a total of 15 million units) Magical Mystery Tour - 6 Million Rubber Soul - 6 Million Revolver - 5 million A Hard Day's Night - 4 Million Let It Be - 4 Million Anthology 1 - 4 Million (for a total of 8 million units) Help! - 3 Million Live At The BBC - 2 Million (for a total of 4 million units) Anthology 2 - 2 Million (for a total of 4 million units) Anthology 3 - 1.5 Million (for a total of 3 million units) Please Please Me - 1 Million Beatles For Sale - 1 Million Past Masters, Volume 1 - 1 Million Past Masters, Volume 2 - 1 Million Yellow Submarine - 1 Million Let It Be....Naked - 1 Million With The Beatles - 500,000 Yellow Submarine Songtrack - 500,000 The Capitol Albums, Volume 1 - 250,000 (for a total of 1 million units) Albums Boxed Set - 62,500+ (16 disc set for a total of 1 million units)
Total: 148 million
Out of Print:
Meet The Beatles - 5 Million The Beatles' Second Album - 2 Million The Beatles' Story - 500,000 Something New - 2 Million Beatles '65 - 3 Million Early Beatles - 1 Million Beatles VI - 1 Million Yesterday and Today - 2 Million Hey Jude - 3 Million The Beatles At The Hollywood Bowl - 1 Million Rarities - 500,000 Rock and Roll Music - 1 Million Rock and Roll Music, Volume 1 - 1 Million Rock and Roll Music, Volume 2 - 1 Million Love Songs - 1.5 million (for a total of 3 million units) 20 Greatest Hits - 2 Million Reel Music - 500,000
Total of Out of Print Albums: 29.5 Million
Albums Total: 177.5 Million Albums!
Singles:
Hey Jude - 4 Million Get Back - 2 Million Something - 2 Million Let It Be - 2 Million
(Certified Gold when Gold stood for 1 Million units)
Lady Madonna - 1 Million Long And Winding Road - 1 Million A Hard Day's Night - 1 Million All You Need Is Love - 1 Million Ballad of John and Yoko - 1 Million Can't Buy Me Love - 1 Million Eight Days A Week - 1 Million Hello Goodbye - 1 Million Help! - 1 Million I Feel Fine - 1 Million I Want To Hold Your Hand - 1 Million Nowhere Man - 1 Million Paperback Writer - 1 Million Penny Lane - 1 Million We Can Work It Out - 1 Million Yellow Submarine - 1 Million Yesterday - 1 Million
(Certified Gold when Gold stood for 500,000 units)
Free As A Bird - 500,000 Got To Get You Into My Life - 500,000 Real Love - 500,000
29.5 Million singles!
Total: 207 million certified albums and singles!*
* A few singles have not been recertified although we know how much they've sold:
Can't Buy Me Love - 3 Million + I Want To Hold Your Hand - 5 Million (give or take) Yesterday - 2 Million+
Counting these, the band's overall total of albums and singles on Capitol is over 214,000,000 units.
The following releases were released on a label outside of Capitol and have never been certified:
Introducing The Beatles - 1 Million Songs Pictures and Stories of the Fabulous Beatles - 500,000 (give or take).......(a rerelease of 'Introducing The Beatles') She Loves You - 3 Million+ Please Please Me - 1 Million+ Twist And Shout - 1 Million + Love Me Do - 1 Million + A Hard Day's Night (United Artists Film Soundtrack) - 2 Million+
Adding these in the mix, we know The Beatles have sold over 223,500,000 albums and singles in the United States.
Finally, here's the band's video certifications. Note that a Platinum award for a video is awarded when it has sold 100,000 copies.
The Beatles Live: Ready, Set, Go! - Platinum (100,000 copies sold) Anthology DVD - 13x Platinum (over 250,000 of the 5 disc sets) The First Us Visit - 2x Platinum (200,000 copies sold)
"Only people know just how to talk to people. Only people know just how to change the world."
Concering the two disc Rock and Roll Music, I agree that the two discs weren't counted together as one, however I know the RIAA only counts a two disc set as two units if the overall time is over 100 minutes. Granted, I don't think either of the band's two double album hits releases run that long, or the White Album for that matter, so I think the RIAA must have set the bar lower for releases on vinyl (as I don't think they could even hold 100 minutes without really sacrificing sound quality). Plus, there's a chance that they transfered some of the excess sales to the certification of the separate volumes that it eventually spawned. For now, I'll leave at 1,000,000 units without counting it as a two disc set.
You are correct about that 100 minutes rule. That rule only covers albums released since 1982. All double albums released prior to that year are not affected, which means that a 80-minutes double album will get certified for two LPs separately if it is from, say, 1977. 1982 because the first CDs were released back then, which symbolizes the end of the vinyl era to RIAA, so to speak.
It may be that this rule change with 1982 being a turning point came about in 1997, which resulted in many pre-1982 double albums doubling their certification levels.Not only 'Love Songs' doubled its cert level in 1997, but also the Red & Blue compilations and the White Album. Also Floyd`s "The Wall" got doubled in 1997. So that decision to exclude pre-1982 albums from that 100 minutes rule must have come about in 1997.
You know, there could be a chance that "A Hard Day's Night" includes the original UA soundtrack in its certification.........I mean "With the Beatles" has only gone gold since it was released here in the late eighties......yes, Capitol had "A Hard Day's Night" since the late seventies when they acquired the rights as you said, but I still find it unlikely that it has sold four million copies since then. With "Meet the Beatles" selling five million, most of which came in 1964, I could see the UA soundtrack having sold two million or so in 1964 (partly because of the competition with "Something New").....and then A Hard Day's Night could've sold a further million from then on until the eighties, and then another million when it was finally released here in 1988.
"Only people know just how to talk to people. Only people know just how to change the world."
You know, there could be a chance that "A Hard Day's Night" includes the original UA soundtrack in its certification.........I mean "With the Beatles" has only gone gold since it was released here in the late eighties......yes, Capitol had "A Hard Day's Night" since the late seventies when they acquired the rights as you said, but I still find it unlikely that it has sold four million copies since then. With "Meet the Beatles" selling five million, most of which came in 1964, I could see the UA soundtrack having sold two million or so in 1964 (partly because of the competition with "Something New").....and then A Hard Day's Night could've sold a further million from then on until the eighties, and then another million when it was finally released here in 1988.
Not too likely. Capitol would have needed the internal distribution and sales documents of UA to get pre-1978 sales certified. There is too much involved in that. Things like that don`t happen.
But of course you do have a point with 'With The Beatles' only being certified with sales of 500,000. It took ca. 10 years to sell that much. But then again, 'Please Please Me' sold twice as much in the same time. One would have expected these two albums to sell about the same, or in the case of one outselling the other, 'With The Beatles' would have appeared to be the safer bet of leading in sales, since it is a more iconic album (classic sleeve, LP that sparked UK Beatlemania, first ever Beatles LP to sell over 1 million in UK).
If PPM sold 1 million in ten years, then it is not impossible for AHDN to have sold 4 million in 23 years. It is a more recognizable album than PPM, as it had always been part of the US catalog and is linked to the first Beatles movie. Add to that that it is generally referred to as the best of the early Beatles albums, it wouldn`t be a big surprise if it kept on selling quite well. Don`t forget that it probably did enjoy extra sales generated by John`s murder in 1980 and also by the media buzz surrounding the Beatles' 20 year anniversary of arriving in the US in 1984.
AHDN did sell an awful lot of copies during 1964. Check out this item from Billboard:
"United Artist`s decision to issue A Hard Day`s Night ahead of the film`s release proved to be a wise one. On July 1, 1964, the company announced that the LP had sold and delivered 1 million copies in just four days. Billboard, in a story titled "Beatles` LP: 4 Days That Shake The Industry", reported the news in its July 11 issue, stating that the album had become one of the fastest selling LPs in the history of the record business."
It sold 1 million copies in four days, now imagine what it sold in the 14 weeks it stayed at the top of Billboard`s albums charts? Must have been more than 2 million. I think it was the second biggest selling LP of 1964 right behind "Meet The Beatles!". Assuming it sold roughly over 3 million in '64, by the end of the 60s, it should have been approaching the 4 million mark, or if that is too optimistic, let`s say by 1978. And that is a conservative approach to AHDN`s American sales.
I don`t think these pre-1978 sales are a factor in the RIAA awards.
Elvis most likely is the most acknowledgeable figure of all time. He had a very distinct voice and a very distinct style, thats extermely easy to see even if you havent heard one of his songs.
Think about it, if you showed the whole world a picture of Ringo, how many would recognize him?
I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we pass the audition.
All Things Must Pass - 6x Platinum (This has sold a total of 6,000,000 units....it was originally a 3 LP set, and is now a 2 CD one, so it's hard to figure out how many album sets have been sold) Concert for Bangladesh - Gold (250,000 two disc sets) Living In The Material World - Gold Dark Horse - Gold Extra Texture - Gold The Best of George Harrison - Gold Thirty Three and 1/3 - Gold George Harrison - Gold Somewhere in England - Gold Cloud Nine - Platinum Brainwashed - Gold
Singles:
My Sweet Lord - Gold
Total: 12 Million Albums and Singles
Ringo
Albums:
Ringo - Platinum Goodnight Vienna - Gold
Singles:
It Don't Come Easy - Gold Photograph - Gold You're Sixteen - Gold
Total: 3 Million Albums and Singles
John
Albums:
Plastic Ono Band - Gold Imagine - 2x Platinum Mind Games - Gold Walls and Bridges - Gold Rock 'n Roll - Gold Shaved Fish - Platinum Double Fantasy - 3x Platinum John Lennon Collection - 3x Platinum Milk and Honey - Gold Live in New York City - Gold Imagine: Soundtrack - Gold Lennon Legend - Gold Lennon Anthology - Gold (A four disc set.....so over 125,000 sets have been sold, for a total of 500,000 units)
Singles:
Instant Karma - Gold Just Like (Starting Over) - Gold Woman - Gold
Total: 15 Million Albums and Singles
Videos:
Live in New York City - Gold (50,000) Lennon Legend - Platinum (100,000)
Paul
Albums:
McCartney - 2x Platinum Ram - Platinum Wildlife - Gold Red Rose Speedway - Gold Band on the Run - 3x Platinum Venus and Mars - Platinum Wings At The Speed Of Sound - Platinum Wings Over America - Platinum London Town - Platinum Wings Greatest - Platinum Back To The Egg - Platinum McCartney II - Gold Tug Of War - Platinum Pipes of Peace - Platinum Give My Regards To Broad Street - Gold All The Best - 2x Platinum Flowers in the Dirt - Gold Tripping the Live Fantastic: Highlights - Platinum Off The Ground - Gold Flaming Pie - Gold Wingspan: Hits and History - 2x Platinum (1 million 2 disc sets) Driving Rain - Gold Back in the U.S. - 2x Platinum (1 million 2 disc sets)
Singles:
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey - Gold My Love - Gold Live and Let Die - Gold Band on the Run - Gold Listen To What the Man Said - Gold Silly Love Songs - Gold Let 'Em In - Gold Goodnight Tonight - Gold Coming Up (Live) - Gold Ebony and Ivory - Gold The Girl Is Mine - Gold Say Say Say - Platinum
Total: 31.5 Million Albums and Singles
Videos:
Paul is Live - Gold (50,000) Wingspan - Gold (50,000) Back in the U.S. - 3x Platinum (300,000)
"Only people know just how to talk to people. Only people know just how to change the world."
Nice, George did amazingly awesome as a solo career, I would have never seen it coming. I guess techincally All Things Must Pass is the greatest selling ex-Beatle album of all time.
I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we pass the audition.
Home
Calendar
Search
Register
Login
SieLiebtDich
Female
Male
Logged
