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Mr_Charlie
February 8, 2005, 6:21am Report to Moderator
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This is the drummer who has been playing with him for the last few years, and garners accolades everywhere he played.

He was dong fills, same as Ringo, except he did his own rather thatn try to copy Ringo note for note.  It was quite good.  He may have been a tad more prominent in the mix than he should have been, but one can't fault his playing.  And I'm sure after a year or two of touring with Paul the Superbowl was just another gig.
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February 8, 2005, 6:24am Report to Moderator
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I couldn't access the site for about 24 hrs until now. I would have responded to personal crits of me, but it seems old news now.

But I will say this: I have posted positive stuff, but I'll admit that the superbowl hype has drawn out my "anti-Paul"vibes.

I will also say that I think there aren't many realists on this board. Too much idolatory of Macca. You guys, it is OK to crit him. It is OK to see his faults. Just because he was great once (positive statement there), doesn't mean he's great now.

If it's OK to go over the top (Paul rules, is awesome, he rocks, he is the man, all that juvenile stuff) in praise of him, then I'm sure you'll forgive me my mild crits of him.


If someone goes overboard on criticism, and one rebuts it, they are then pegged as Macca worshippers.  This happens in all forums, not just this one.

No one said Paul was above criticism.  What is being said is that yours was over the top and not backed up by anything.  Certainly you are entitled to express your opinion, but then so does everyone else.

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Quoted from Ydoll_Gwyn

I will also say that I think there aren't many realists on this board. Too much idolatory of Macca. You guys, it is OK to crit him. It is OK to see his faults. Just because he was great once (positive statement there), doesn't mean he's great now.


Yes, its fine to criticize him (he's old, egotistical, money grubber, media puppy), but all he did was perform a really good 4 song set halftime show at the superbowl. Why are you so negative towards this?

Its almost like Paul lost his appeal to the bashers at a certain date in time. 71', 73', 76'??? Hell, I dont know. If you dont dig his music, quit complaining about it to us that still do enjoy it. Thats all i'm saying. Lennon was a jerk, but i'm not spreading the word if you know what I mean.





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. If you dont dig his music, quit complaining about it to us that still do enjoy it.





Personally, I'd much rather debate on some musical opinion I didn't agree with than blat on about which beatle is the cutist, or if i would make a decent girlfriend for paul.
For me-keep the comments coming-just be able to take the comebacks


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Thats my beef though. If I dont like Yanni and you do,,,,,no matter what you say isnt going to change my mind. So wheres the debate?


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Quoted from Mr_Charlie
This is the drummer who has been playing with him for the last few years, and garners accolades everywhere he played.

He was dong fills, same as Ringo, except he did his own rather thatn try to copy Ringo note for note.  It was quite good.  He may have been a tad more prominent in the mix than he should have been, but one can't fault his playing.  And I'm sure after a year or two of touring with Paul the Superbowl was just another gig.


I certainly wasn't faulting his playing. It just sounded different to me. And too loud. Maybe he was miked too loud I don't know. The guys good though I know. I think it's fine to do your own thing when playing for another drummer, but when it comes to a song as famous as this one or many other Beatles tunes, you don't wanna go too far. Which he really didn't. After I listed to Hey Jude on CD I could see he was mostly spot on.


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I still don't get all this Paul bashing. I think he did an excellent job at the superbowl (remember guys he's 62).Drive My Car and Get Back were a little bland but the Live and Let Die and Hey Jude performances were amazing.



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Paul is in a class all by himself as a rock legend & it was a great Super Bowl halftime performance safe as milk but his time has come & gone as an influential artist.  


Wrong!....He still influences me and many other bands here in the UK.


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Nice post link for everyone there Tkitna....Abe Laboriel JR is a fantastic drummer and singer...Top session guy and a real power-house..that's his style....He's not gonna just go and copy Ringo licks and he's been touring these songs with Paul for quite a while now. No doubt he wants to bring his style to it. Obviously with no objections from Paul.
Was'nt his father a top session bass player of the same name?


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yeah Abe is a good drummer. I have the 'Back In The US' dvd and he does a great job in every song. He even sings along with Macca on Eleanor Rigby.



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Nice Bruno I saw the Back In The World last year at earls Court UK...I was reall impressed by Abe....He can hit those top falsetto harmonies sweet aswell....A crucial critic buster!!!! lol


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I said it before, but I'll say it again--Paul has the unenviable task of competing with himself in every way possible, his Beatle past, his (numerous) masterpieces, changing the world, etc., but he's doing a hell of a job. He's out there working his arse off with causes, creating, writing, recording a new album, shows here and there, planning another tour--an incredible amount of energy, initiative, ambition, and focus for a guy who could easily sit the rest of his life getting fat in a chair watching TV. My Dear Ydoll Gwyn--mark down how quickly you can run one mile today and hold on to it. Run the same mile when you're 62+ and see if you're still keeping the same pace.
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HereComesYourSun wrote: "No dont get me wrong, Hey Jude is my #1 favorite song in the world, I just found it odd that they all concluded perfectly, despite the fact that he cut the Na Naas short of the real version."

Really?


Hey Jude vs. Here Comes The Sun

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I said it before, but I'll say it again--Paul has the unenviable task of competing with himself in every way possible, his Beatle past, his (numerous) masterpieces, changing the world, etc., but he's doing a hell of a job. He's out there working his arse off with causes, creating, writing, recording a new album, shows here and there, planning another tour--an incredible amount of energy, initiative, ambition, and focus for a guy who could easily sit the rest of his life getting fat in a chair watching TV. My Dear Ydoll Gwyn--mark down how quickly you can run one mile today and hold on to it. Run the same mile when you're 62+ and see if you're still keeping the same pace.


yeah baby yeah.
perfect!


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Quoted from juniorsfarm
I said it before, but I'll say it again--Paul has the unenviable task of competing with himself in every way possible, his Beatle past, his (numerous) masterpieces, changing the world, etc., but he's doing a hell of a job. He's out there working his arse off with causes, creating, writing, recording a new album, shows here and there, planning another tour--an incredible amount of energy, initiative, ambition, and focus for a guy who could easily sit the rest of his life getting fat in a chair watching TV. My Dear Ydoll Gwyn--mark down how quickly you can run one mile today and hold on to it. Run the same mile when you're 62+ and see if you're still keeping the same pace.


Slickly put...I mean he could jast have 'hung up his boots' after The Beatles and criticised everyone as much as YDoll. lol


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