There has been a great deal of debate surrounding just who sang the "aaaaaahhs" after Paul's line "somebody spoke and I went into a dream" from A Day In The Life. Well, Mr Charlie has sent me some evidence which, I believe, finally reveals the truth... it's Paul!

Now you can judge for yourselves - I've uploaded the two clips!! Please let me know what you think.

http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html

Quality is not tops, but I WAS surprised that it seemed fairly OK. Clear and not muddy like I sort-of expected. (I would have said this regardless of how it turned out. In matters such as this, I try to be objective as poss. FYI, I have a good computer with harman/kardon speakers attached.)

However, it's still an aural judgement.

For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.

Quoted from Ydoll_Gwyn

For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.

Get some new speakers!!!

For me , these uploads put it beyond any doubt that it's Paul.  

Aren't ears strange things!

I was prepared to eat humble pie on this, but when I heard the files, I knew it was John. That edge that is always present in the Lennon voice is clear to hear.

But thanks, of course to you and Charlie.

Late addendum: I must say that to my ears it is also clear on the CD and vinyl (mono & stereo).

Even later: My 17 year old daughter has a good ear for voices and accents (she's a great mimic), but she is no particular fan of her Dad's musical heroes. However, she thinks (based on the CD)

(a) John's voice is clear and dominant
(b) There may be another distinct voice there: she's not sure.

Quoted from Ydoll_Gwyn

For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.

I agree...but if you compare "A Day in the Life" with the beginning of "Lovely Rita"...still strange though.

Quoted from Ydoll_Gwyn

Quality is not tops, but I WAS surprised that it seemed fairly OK. Clear and not muddy like I sort-of expected. (I would have said this regardless of how it turned out. In matters such as this, I try to be objective as poss. FYI, I have a good computer with harman/kardon speakers attached.)

However, it's still an aural judgement.

For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.

Of COURSE it does.  It's worth nothing, Rotman.

Because I don't believe you.  Only a congenital idiot such as yourself would not hear that it is Paul.  Therefore you lie.  But then, what's new?  Aw....you're going to be disappointed that I don't have three coronaries because a liar can't hear or won't admit to the truth.

Whether you bought it or not is of no further concern to me, you were as predictable as I figured.  The others are free to listen and use their ears (were your headphones actually plugged into your a**? Yeah, that would figure too.)

Quoted from Ydoll_Gwyn

Aren't ears strange things!

I was prepared to eat humble pie on this, but when I heard the files, I knew it was John. That edge that is always present in the Lennon voice is clear to hear.

But thanks, of course to you and Charlie.

You're welcome.  You're also severely lacking in any aural facutlies whatsoever.  You were never prepared to eat humble pie (how refreshing THAT might have been) and there was never any danger of you doing so.  As early as yesterday you were already preparing your escape hatch should I actually prove you wrong (which I did).

It is clearly NOT Lennon, therefore I think you should hop along to a doctor.


It is NOT a matter of it being whomever you choose to hear.  It was either John or it wasn't.  It wasn't.

Ding.

Quoted from Ydoll_Gwyn

Late addendum: I must say that to my ears it is also clear on the CD and vinyl (mono & stereo).

Even later: My 17 year old daughter has a good ear for voices and accents (she's a great mimic), but she is no particular fan of her Dad's musical heroes. However, she thinks (based on the CD)

(a) John's voice is clear and dominant
(b) There may be another distinct voice there: she's not sure.

Your daughters ears are entirely irrelevant.  

I didn't mention MY daughters ears because of the same thing.  She walked in the house as I was editing the clip, made some mention of what a dream boat he was , I asked who and she said Paul.  She has been a Beatle fan since she was 4, she's 22 now.

I'd stack my daughter's ears against yours any day but then your girl has had a bad enough life living with you.  She doesn't need further debasing.

Ta!

Quoted from Soft_Guitar60

I agree...but if you compare "A Day in the Life" with the beginning of "Lovely Rita"...still strange though.

Ydoll/Maria/Rotweiller is not looking nor reporting for truth.  This is, in their own words, a game.

And a severely badly played one on their part, as anyone can clearly hear it being Paul.

How big of an a** does one need to be to act like this?

Quoted from The_End

There has been a great deal of debate surrounding just who sang the "aaaaaahhs" after Paul's line "somebody spoke and I went into a dream" from A Day In The Life. Well, Mr Charlie has sent me some evidence which, I believe, finally reveals the truth... it's Paul!

Now you can judge for yourselves - I've uploaded the two clips!! Please let me know what you think.

http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html

Thanks Alan.

I already knew Maria would pooh pooh it, which he/she/it fulfilled perfectly predicatably.  But I want junior to listen, and then tell me or anyone else they should get their hearing checked.

I await his reply.

Be done with it: you say it's McCartney, that's OK. We can argue until forever...nobody knows for sure except the people who made the record and produced it.

Quoted from Soft_Guitar60

Be done with it: you say it's McCartney, that's OK. We can argue until forever...nobody knows for sure except the people who made the record and produced it.

Horseshit.

Listen to the clip before you speak.  THEN you can offer your opinion.

My daughter's ears are very relevant, because she has talent in that area. I notice your daughter (at 22) is still talking about people being dream boats: that seemed to be her qualification. Nuff said on that one.

The thing that interests me is that you can't bear to be disagreed with. You SAY you like discussion: but as soon as someone challenges, you go off half-cocked. It's an interesting phenomenon to watch. After I posted my opinion on whose voice it was, I went and did some work, and then returned to find you spraying your venom everywhere. Mate, you have a social dysfunction, that's for sure.

Quoted from Ydoll_Gwyn

My daughter's ears are very relevant, because she has talent in that area. I notice your daughter (at 22) is still talking about people being dream boats: that seemed to be her qualification. Nuff said on that one.

No, not "nuff said".  (What lame saying).

Your claims about your daughter are as irrlevant as any claims I would make about mine.  The point being she is -entirely- irrelevant.  Try standing on your own losing opinion.  Your saying she has talent is unqualifiable.  What IS qualifiable is the tape segment.

Quoted Text

The thing that interests me is that you can't bear to be disagreed with. You SAY you like discussion: but as soon as someone challenges, you go off half-cocked. It's an interesting phenomenon to watch. After I posted my opinion on whose voice it was, I went and did some work, and then returned to find you spraying your venom everywhere. Mate, you have a social dysfunction, that's for sure.

You are the social dysfunction.  This isn't about *discussion*, it never is with you.  It's about one upmanship.  Your opinion about who it is is as irrelevant as your daughter's, for you lie far too frequently to be believed.

Spraying everywhere?  My, must be lovely being a fiction writer.  I answered each one of your posts, of which there were 4 or 5.  You first, "mate".

As others hear it they will know, but of course thanks to you they will be afraid to admit to what they hear.  

If someone still hears John I don't mind, I myself just yesterday couldn't quite tell (due mainly to tv in the background and such).  It is uncannily John-sounding, but undeniably Paul.

As a lifelong Beatle fan I live for finding this stuff.  I just turned a bunch of people on to a new phenomenon and I take great pleasure in bringing something new and exciting to the group.  

You bring.....what, exactly, besides condescension?  Do you actually wank while you post?  Sure seems like it.

I saw this in the anomalies:
3:02-3:12
Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John’s more prominent "aah’s".

(Yeah, I could hear the 'ooo' but was it from John or Paul?)

As others hear it they will know, but of course thanks to you they will be afraid to admit to what they hear. I don't follow that one ...

As a lifelong Beatle fan I live for finding this stuff. Charlie, I think you have lost perspective. You LIVE for finding this stuff? No wonder you get upset when it unravels! Wow!

I just turned a bunch of people on to a new phenomenon and I take great pleasure in bringing something new and exciting to the group. You might very well think that. Others might think that "new and exciting" are hardly the words for this!

Do you actually wank while you post?  Sure seems like it. Such a schoolkid thing to say.  

Quoted from Soft_Guitar60

I saw this in the anomalies:
3:02-3:12
Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John’s more prominent "aah’s".

(Yeah, I could hear the 'ooo' but was it from John or Paul?)

The faint falsetto "ooo" is hard to identify with a particular person. But the main "aah's" - sounds like Johnny to me too, as I've said.

Quoted from Soft_Guitar60

I saw this in the anomalies:
3:02-3:12
Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John’s more prominent "aah’s".

(Yeah, I could hear the 'ooo' but was it from John or Paul?)

I'm glad you listened to it.  Yeah there is a falsetto voice in the b/g, sounded kind of Paulish as well.

As to the anomolies. there's no way of knowing when that was written but if all they had to go on was the normal CD then they're just assuming, like we all did.

And of course the anomoly page, while interesting and good for tracking little blurbs in their records, is no final authority on anything.

I had always assumed it was John. I thought it sounded like John. I never even thought about Paul until someone started the thread questioning it. Now, after listening to the clip I think it sounds like Paul.

Did you know you can actually play both clips together if you're quick with your mouse button!!

This is all so funny...It still sounds like John to me. It's the nasalness in the arhhhh!!!

For what it's worth, I used to teach singing. Those clips seem to re-affirm my own inclinations that it is John. Check out the coarseness. It just don't sound like Paul. Paul would have not allowed any croak in his voice I'm sure. lol.

Still...I'm not confirming nothing....That would be tooo risky on this thread! lol

Having listened to the two pieces, referencing Mark Lewisohn's book about the quadruple tracking of echo used for John's voice, and that John is hitting notes a little high for his particular register, Its John. I'm pretty certain that if 'Lucy' had been done with as much echo, as high as John's voice is, it would probably be reminiscent of Paul's as well. If you want to believe its Paul, so be it, no harm done. Easy mistake, but its clearly John's voice. Amen.

Second listen and clip 2 is more difficult to distinguish. Clip 1 does it for me though....Right near the end...That's the nasal bit for me.

This is so weird - I absolutely hear Paul 100% without a question of doubt. Obviously, that is what I hear though!

I thought these clips would dispel any doubts... wrong! LOL

Perhaps this wiill help convince you...

1. On an earlier take Paul runs through his "woke up..." sequence (the take which ends with Paul flubbing his line and laughing before he says "mess") his vocal is drenched in tape delay (echo) ala Lennon. So it wasn't just a John thing to record in this style.  

2. Paul could mimic John's vocal style - he admitted that in many interviews around the time that Free As A Bird was released.

3. Listen to the first bit of the "aaahs" (the descending scale) - it is so distinctly Paul. Admittedly, the 2nd bit (the ascending scale) is more nasaly and Lennon-esque but if you listen closely you can hear it's Paul. I swear!

Take another listen - I hope the debate continues.

LOL.....Will do Al....This is a goody...What came first? The chicken or the egg? lol

I bet Macca started and John finished just to really wind us all up!  hehehehe!

Quoted from An_Apple_Beatle

I bet Macca started and John finished just to really wind us all up!  hehehehe!

Well... funnily enough, up until recently I'd always thought there was an edit there between the first "aah", which I thought was Paul, and the 2nd "aah" which I thought was John!

It will take a lot to persuade me it's not all Paul now though... however, a cash bribe would change my opinion in a heartbeat!!

Quoted from Ydoll_Gwyn

My daughter's ears are very relevant, because she has talent in that area. I notice your daughter (at 22) is still talking about people being dream boats: that seemed to be her qualification. Nuff said on that one.

The thing that interests me is that you can't bear to be disagreed with. You SAY you like discussion: but as soon as someone challenges, you go off half-cocked. It's an interesting phenomenon to watch. After I posted my opinion on whose voice it was, I went and did some work, and then returned to find you spraying your venom everywhere. Mate, you have a social dysfunction, that's for sure.

you obviosuly cant tell the difference of their voices in the first place...but Im not trying to argue, your a Ringo fan

I think it's Paul, regardless of Mr. Charlie's evidence.  When the "ahh"s first start it's a stronger, more in the throat kind of voice, like Paul's.  But when the horns start to drown it out it sounds more nasaly like John's.  Besides, why does this matter at all and why is it making people act like such jerks?  All Ydoll Gwyn did was state his opinion and then Mr. Charlie immediately takes offense and starts calling him an a** and disregarding Ydoll's statements as invalid while upholding his own, equally or more unsupportable statements as if it's common sense and everyone should agree with them.

I swear to my life its Paul!! i wish they talked about it in the anthology!! that would be proof, I cant belive people still think its John, The second"aahh" sounds exactly like Paul

Well the right rear one sounds like it could be either of them and the left rear one sounds like Paul then turning into John. But Paul could do that stuff so it could very well be him the whole time. Although I do think Lennon is in there somewhere. I'M STILL SO CONFUSED!!!!!!!! But man do I enjoy listening to that part isolated! Why didn't anyone ever ask Paul this in an interview!! They've asked him just about everything else!!!

I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be George.

Quoted from Harrison

I think it's Paul, regardless of Mr. Charlie's evidence.  When the "ahh"s first start it's a stronger, more in the throat kind of voice, like Paul's.  But when the horns start to drown it out it sounds more nasaly like John's.

Yep, that's what I hear too.

Quoted Text

All Ydoll Gwyn did was state his opinion and then Mr. Charlie immediately takes offense and starts calling him an a** and disregarding Ydoll's statements as invalid while upholding his own,

There is a lot of history between Ydoll and Charlie, and a lot of arguments spill over from other threads. I've found it's best not to get involved in the banter. It's just two people exchanging views instead of punches!

I would fall out of my chair if it was Ringo!

Quoted from Harrison

I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be George.

LOL!

It almost could be!  

Quoted from Harrison

I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be George.

LOL! Me too!

LOL!!! Now that would really be messing with our heads!!!


The more I listen, the right rear one sounds more like Paul starting as well. But I still think John's following him up. Just because it gets more nasal and high pitched. But again, Paul's voice was pretty versitile. Like the Lovely Rita thing someone mentioned. Similiar. Anyway, dontcha just LOVE this song?? It should be given some kinda special award for greatest song of all time or something. Cuz it is.

Quoted from An_Apple_Beatle

This is all so funny...It still sounds like John to me. It's the nasalness in the arhhhh!!!

For what it's worth, I used to teach singing. Those clips seem to re-affirm my own inclinations that it is John. Check out the coarseness. It just don't sound like Paul. Paul would have not allowed any croak in his voice I'm sure. lol.

Still...I'm not confirming nothing....That would be tooo risky on this thread! lol

Thanks for your honesty.  I'm not going after anyone who says what they hear.  Only one person who's opinion is worthless anyway.

I -am- surprised that a voice professional would make that mistake but hey...we know Paul was able to double John's voice (and vice versa) for years.  Isolated it is cleaerer t