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An Apple Beatle
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Michelle is a good song. The melody and counter melodies are great composition, making it a good song, even if the lyrics are a bit gushy....It is a love song after all though. It would maybe have sat on Help better.


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Quoted from An_Apple_Beatle
Michelle is a good song. The melody and counter melodies are great composition, making it a good song, even if the lyrics are a bit gushy....It is a love song after all though. It would maybe have sat on Help better.


Not to mention that Girl had a bit of an Italian sound, so Michelle's French sound fits in perfectly, IMO.
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Michelle is a good song. The melody and counter melodies are great composition, making it a good song, even if the lyrics are a bit gushy....It is a love song after all though. It would maybe have sat on Help better.


It's precisely the gushy lyrics that I hate! It's a love BLEAT, nota love song!
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Not to mention that Girl had a bit of an Italian sound, so Michelle's French sound fits in perfectly, IMO.


GIRL - Italian sound? Where?

MICHELLE - French sound? I mean, he sings some crappy French: that doesn't give it a French sound!
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GIRL - Italian sound? Where?

MICHELLE - French sound? I mean, he sings some crappy French: that doesn't give it a French sound!


Girl -- throughout the whole thing.  Being an Italian myself, I can safely say that's an Italian sound.

Michelle -- He pronounces himself very well, actually.  Michelle = French name.  French words = French.  And the sound is French-esque.  I can't really debate that -- if it's a French, it's French.
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Sorry Frightwolf, I can't see Italian in GIRL at all.

And MICHELLE? French name - well, I know a few Michelles, none of whom are French. French words? Uh-huh - school French. And the sound - FRENCH-ESQUE! You're putting me on ...
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Sorry Frightwolf, I can't see Italian in GIRL at all.

And MICHELLE? French name - well, I know a few Michelles, none of whom are French. French words? Uh-huh - school French. And the sound - FRENCH-ESQUE! You're putting me on ...


Then you need to listen to some more Italian.  That's a definite Italian sound I'm hearing.

Michelle is a French name, and I don't think he's trying to write a French novel here, so forgive him if all the words aren't French.  
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I don't think you could be more wrong, on both counts. But you think the same thing about me!

Aren't opinions wonderful?
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I don't think you could be more wrong, on both counts. But you think the same thing about me!

Aren't opinions wonderful?


Darn straight! I think you're dead wrong on the Italian thing -- I'm telling you that there's Italian in Girl.  

But hey, it's being kept civil -- always cool.  
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No need to reiterate. I know your view. Saying it again doesn't make me think, "Ah you might be right". I can't hear Italian (whatever that means). That's that.

Yes, always cool to be civil. We agree there, FW.
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No need to reiterate. I know your view. Saying it again doesn't make me think, "Ah you might be right". I can't hear Italian (whatever that means). That's that.

Yes, always cool to be civil. We agree there, FW.


Yes indeed... *insert notation that you create a vacuum*

j/k  
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Too subtle for me. I wonder if civilities came to an end in your post just there? Hmmm ...
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Italian in Girl I see as a Greek-esque kinda thing when there is the (Instrumental) refrain section.

Love BLEAT in Michelle indeed Ydoll. It's still a song. That school french you refer to was Macca only about 23 at the time fitting in syllables whatever way he could. You could interpret that the naive french may have given the song extra charm. The extra frenchiness comes from the accordian.


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I'm with Ydoll on this one. I've always found Michelle embarrasing. it's just too sweet and trite for me, and nearly ruins Rubber Soul for me.
As for Girl - well I guess you hear what you hear, but it don't sound either Greek or Italian to me. I need more convincing.


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It's the instrumental section before the last chorus of Girl that sounds Greek? maybe 'mediterranean? lol   Imagine the throwing of plates when you hear it!!! lol


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