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But Denny did what Paul wanted him to do. There's your clue.


Right! All Gravy, all education! Thanks!  


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John George and Ringo surrounded themselves with superstars after the split. I think Paul was making a definate statement in creating a new band of relative unknowns, rather than the tempory supergroups preferred by the others.
Not too sure about the beetle-wings thing. I think Paul was trying to move from the past as much as he could. Probably more a play on his new-found freedom.


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John George and Ringo surrounded themselves with superstars after the split. I think Paul was making a definate statement in creating a new band of relative unknowns, rather than the tempory supergroups preferred by the others.
Not too sure about the beetle-wings thing. I think Paul was trying to move from the past as much as he could. Probably more a play on his new-found freedom.


So maybe then not just about freedom for Macca, but also about control. Easier to control relative unknowns than superstars.


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I read an interview with Denny. He said after he joined Wings all his friends were saying "Whats going on? You were a big man in the Moody Blues, singing and writing, now you're playing second fiddle to McCartney."
Unfortunately, I can't remember his answer.


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Unfortunately, I can't remember his answer.


That says it all.
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Not too sure about the beetle-wings thing. I think Paul was trying to move from the past as much as he could. Probably more a play on his new-found freedom.


Well, he said the name came to him while Linda was busy giving birth to his daughter. Sound familiar somehow, doesn't it?  

"Then late in 1971, drummer Denny Seiwell, and ex-Moody Blues guitarist and singer Denny Laine, joined Paul McCartney and wife Linda McCartney to record Paul's third post-Beatles project. The result was Wild Life, the first project to credit Wings. The band name is said to have come to McCartney as he was praying in the hospital while Linda was giving birth to their second child together, Stella McCartney. Paul McCartney recalled in the film Wingspan that the birth of Stella was "a bit of a drama"; there were complications at the birth and that both Linda and the baby almost died. He was praying fervently and the image of wings came to his mind. He decided to name his new band "Wings".

P.S. I mean it reminds somehow to the birth of another famous group's name. It seems that he was trying to be John here.
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So maybe then not just about freedom for Macca, but also about control. Easier to control relative unknowns than superstars.


You could be right, but in lieu of evidence to the contrary I'm prepared to give Macca the benefit of the doubt.
I don't like the "control freak" tag - someone had to take the band by the lead after Brians death. John could have but chose not to. He was too busy turning Japanese. (I really think so)


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You could be right, but in lieu of evidence to the contrary I'm prepared to give Macca the benefit of the doubt.
I don't like the "control freak" tag - someone had to take the band by the lead after Brians death. John could have but chose not to. He was too busy turning Japanese. (I really think so)


And too busy getting stoned. And again: walking away from the responsibility.
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John George and Ringo surrounded themselves with superstars after the split. I think Paul was making a definate statement in creating a new band of relative unknowns, rather than the tempory supergroups preferred by the others.
Not too sure about the beetle-wings thing. I think Paul was trying to move from the past as much as he could. Probably more a play on his new-found freedom.


Perhaps Denny Lane was in his ears and in his eyes!


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I'm glad. This is my post number 1000 and here I am: congratulations, GreenApple, for your avatar!
Should I choose another? I'm not sure. I think I'm not going to change never (Don't Ever Change) so I'll wait 'till my next reincarnation.
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Quoted from Bobber
It's true that Paul was an important member of the Beatles and his stepping out would have had a great impact. But I think the world would have accepted a new line-up after some time. As long as John was there, certainly.


The Beatles without Paul? No, I don't think anyone would have excepted that. The Beatles are JohnPaulGeorgeandRingo. That's it. They are like one.

Also, I think if the Beatles had kept going, Yoko would have had to join the freaking band. That's the way it was going. That's what he other three talk about in Anthology when they get to the break up. I think Paul wanted the band to continue more than anything, but when all this stuff went down he acted like a spoiled brat or jilted lover. They had had enough of each other I think and they probably wouldn't be as legendary if they had gone on and possibly started to produce mediocre music like so many of the 60's bands. Although I think they had at least 3 or 4 more great albums in them. Considering the solo work.


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I'm glad it finished when it did, really.
Some bands might of fought through the depression, anger and sadness just for the money. But the Beatles ended it, finally - when the magic wasn't being created.


Whats the matter lads? Blue Meanies?

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The Beatles broke up because John, Paul, George & Ringo wanted to do other things & they were growing apart musically, personally & professionally. Allen Klein is one of the main reasons they broke up as well because he turned Lennon & McCartney against each other when it came to the business side. Yoko & Linda didn't cause the breakup of the Beatles at all but it's easy to think so in their history.


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I'm glad. This is my post number 1000 and here I am: congratulations, GreenApple, for your avatar!
Should I choose another? I'm not sure. I think I'm not going to change never (Don't Ever Change) so I'll wait 'till my next reincarnation.


If the avatar is the pic of The Beatles single All You Need Is Love cover, then - thanks! The jaded-but-still-relevant-message-which-we-know-is-still-true-just-by-watching-the-news being spread is among the few feeble things I can do to even try to make the world a better place! My favourite charity is Oxfam (Oxford Famine Relief), by the way. At least it wasn't just snobbery which was invented in Oxford!  

And, if I'm starting to seem like a 'bot' (whatever it means), then at least I'm a well-intentioned one!


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I think and they probably wouldn't be as legendary if they had gone on and possibly started to produce mediocre music like so many of the 60's bands.


I suppose this is the main point of consolation for Beatles fans everywhere - that they may well have peaked with Abbey Road, but, if they hadn't, Abbey Road sure was a fine point to end on.


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