Just go and tell Paul why don't you? lol. The likes of us and you will never know. I'm surprised they had any bum left after all the chunks they bit off each other.
Ydoll likes to spell things out for us Borrie.
Paul knows - that's why he's into such a revisionist mode these days. You know Appy, some fans actually fall for all that "Paul was the real avante garde one". On being asked to actually give us some examples, they shuffle their feet and um & ah. Fact is, Appy, the likes of us DO know. We have Rain, and Fields, and Tomorrow Never, and Walrus, and ... Well, there ya go. Case closed.
I see. Well, I don't mind a fine discussion. As long as there's respect for each others opinion...
Excellent, Borrie. I love a good discussion too. You might find, however, that some people here fancy themselves as knowledgeable fans, but in reality they don't know much.
Just what I always feared, that John and George would be gone one day and Paul would then create the revised history of the Beatles with Paul being the backbone to all the group's successes and experimentation.
I think the white album would of been perfect if they had cut out rev. 9 and put in hey jude. even though I like rev. p i think this would have been better
Just what I always feared, that John and George would be gone one day and Paul would then create the revised history of the Beatles with Paul being the backbone to all the group's successes and experimentation.
Well, George was alive and somewhat kicking when the whole Anthology thing was released. I don't know the truth (who does?) and I guess even Paul has got his own version of the truth. I don't think he's rewriting history. I think it's not about 'I did this' and 'I was the one who was into the avantgarde thing' and 'I visited to most galleries'... They really had a big influence on each other. And maybe they were rivals on a particulair way, but I still believe that they were first of all friends. And then, I also believe that Paul's part on the Beatles becoming this big cannot be denied.
Uh, about Revolution #9. Somehow I can't imagine Hey Jude being on the White Album. Looking for an alternative, I'd rather place What's The New Mary Jane there.
Well, George was alive and somewhat kicking when the whole Anthology thing was released. I don't know the truth (who does?) and I guess even Paul has got his own version of the truth. I don't think he's rewriting history. I think it's not about 'I did this' and 'I was the one who was into the avantgarde thing' and 'I visited to most galleries'... They really had a big influence on each other. And maybe they were rivals on a particulair way, but I still believe that they were first of all friends. And then, I also believe that Paul's part on the Beatles becoming this big cannot be denied.
Uh, about Revolution #9. Somehow I can't imagine Hey Jude being on the White Album. Looking for an alternative, I'd rather place What's The New Year Mary Jane there.
The underlined bit: Sorry, but THAT'S EXACTLY what Macca is doing!! He's going around saying exactly those things!!!
The bold bit: Boy, that mistype hurts your Fab Cred, man!
Jesus Christ. Don't you ever mistype anything? What's The New Mary Jane? Alright? You get the point, don't you? You do like to spell things out! About the underlined part: again, I suggested it is NOT about those things. I don't care. Spell it out, please, not everybody here is a native English speaker. Shall we switch to Danish?
Hmm. Fine discussions, eh? Let's not put salt on every snail, as the old Chinese use to say. Meaning: let's not point at every mistake somebody is making. It's about the discussion and trade of knowledge, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Hmm. Fine discussions, eh? Let's not put salt on every snail, as the old Chinese use to say. Meaning: let's not point at every mistake somebody is making. It's about the discussion and trade of knowledge, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Oh if only... I think Hey Jude would have been an excellent finish for the album - the "tone" of the song and that long fade out would have been perfect.
Does that mean you'd skip Goodnight as well? Fine by me, I always get a bit tired of it. Looking at the Esher demo's again -the base of the White Album- I'd rather suggest Child Of Nature or Sour Milk Sea.
Apart from Revolution (the song) I don't like side 4 at all, and would burn it to the ground and start again. I'm ashamed to say I haven't heard the songs you mention. And yes, Goodnight can go. But then it wouldn't be the White Album I guess, and maybe its flaws are all part of the package.
I agree side 4 isn't the best, I like Savoy Truffle tho and Honey Pie (is that side 4?) is kinda funny too. I guess we can do without the Revolutions in our lives, at least in mine that is. But I agree again that this is The White Album, it somehow fits in. But maybe that's just because we are used to it the way it is.
I don't think Paul is rewriting history. He's been saying these things for over 30 years. He said he was listening to John Cage in the late '60s and had an open mind to more avant garde things. George Martin has acknowledged that. The difference between him and John (in my opinion) is that Paul has typically gone for creating more accessible (read commercial) product and John hooked up with Yoko, and he got off on the fact that you can create 'art' out of anything and applied it to his music, avant garde, music concrete, or however you want to spin it. Hell, he wanted Revolution 9 as an 'A' side of a single.
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Let's not put salt on every snail, as the old Chinese use to say. Meaning: let's not point at every mistake somebody is making. It's about the discussion and trade of knowledge, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Looking at the Esher demo's again -the base of the White Album- I'd rather suggest Child Of Nature or Sour Milk Sea.