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Geoff
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Not my sort of thing, but "LA Woman," Light My Fire," and "Roadhouse Blues" are decent enough. Haven't heard The Doors in ages, actually.  
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OK, like I said, I love The Doors. But that didn't keep me from FUBARing ... the song with the distortion from hell wasn't "20th Century Fox", it was "Hello I Love You".

Here is a REALLY cool clip of them playing live in a street, superimposed on the real song. Like John said about "Cold Turkey" - play this LOUD!!!  (the bass way up too!)

"Hello I Love You":    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34wa2jehek


BTW, "20th Century Fox" is pretty excellent too!!  ...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnnWdI74bAQ


I love John,
I love Paul,
And George and Ringo,
I love them all!

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Oh yes and Love Her Madly and & Hello I love You... I love those ones too!



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oh, i love the doors. jim has the coolest voice ever and the organs are amazing.
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They were definitely a influential and memorable band from the 60's...


Memorable, absolutely.  Influential?  That's a tougher call for me.  What bands/performers that followed afterwards would you look at and think, "Obviously heavily influenced by Morrison/the Doors."

I have heard comparisons of Patti Smith to Jim Morrison.
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Maybe influenced was a wrong choice of word... But I think that many people when asked to name some of the greatest bands from the 60's,  many would name The Doors as one of them.  And I think because they were so big, that many up and coming artists probably fed off of that.  Off the top of my head, your right, I can't really think of a band that sounds similiar to them.  But I am sure that they must have influenced many bands.



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Quoted from Mr. Mustard

Memorable, absolutely.  Influential?  That's a tougher call for me.  What bands/performers that followed afterwards would you look at and think, "Obviously heavily influenced by Morrison/the Doors."


Musically they weren't that influencial. But Jim's stage attitude could've been inspirational for a lot of punk bands.


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Uh, have you ever seen Scott Weiland? I think he actually thinks he IS Jim Morrison. Well, sometimes he thinks he Mick Jagger, but it's mostly Jim.  I think you all are underestimating the power of the Doors.

Here's a start anyway.
From Wiki:

Morrison remains one of the most popular and influential singers/writers in rock history, as The Doors' catalog has become a staple of classic rock radio stations. To this day, he is widely regarded as the prototypical rock star: surly, sexy, scandalous and mysterious. The leather pants he was fond of wearing both onstage and off have since become stereotyped as rock star apparel.

Seminal punk rock band Iggy and the Stooges are said to have formed after lead singer Iggy Pop was inspired by Morrison while attending a Doors concert in Ann Arbor, Michigan.[39] One of Iggy Pop's most popular songs, "The Passenger", is said to be based on one of Morrison's poems.[40] After Morrison's death, Iggy was considered as a replacement for Morrison; the surviving Doors gave Iggy some of Morrison's belongings, and hired him as a vocalist for a series of shows.

Wallace Fowlie, professor emeritus of French literature at Duke University, wrote Rimbaud and Jim Morrison, subtitled "The Rebel as Poet – A Memoir." In this book, Fowlie recounts his surprise at receiving a fan letter from Morrison who, in 1968, thanked him for his latest translation of Rimbaud's verse into English. "I don't read French easily", he wrote, "...your book travels around with me." Fowlie went on to give lectures on numerous campuses comparing the lives, philosophies and poetry of Morrison and Rimbaud.

Scott Weiland, the vocalist of Stone Temple Pilots and Velvet Revolver, as well as Scott Stapp of Creed (band) claim Morrison to be their biggest influence and inspiration. Stone Temple Pilots and Velvet Revolver have both covered "Roadhouse Blues" by the Doors. Weiland also filled in for the late-Morrison to perform "Break On Through" with the rest of the Doors . Stapp filled in for Morrison for "Light my fire","Riders on the Storm" and "Roadhouse Blues" on vH1 storytellers. Creed performed their version of "Riders on the storm" with Robbie Krieger for the Woodstock festival.

In Stephen Davis' book Jim Morrison: Life, Death, Legend (2004) the author makes a compelling argument for a case that the Rolling Stones adopted some of the Doors darker edges for their album Aftermath - and beyond. Subsequent tracks like, "Gimme Shelter", "Street Fighting Man" and "You Can't Always Get What You Want" also share lyrical similarities with the dark material in Morrison's songs, which has been both confirmed and denied to be a sign of Morrison having a preference for nihilism.The book The Doors by the remaining Doors quotes Morrison's close friend Frank Lisciandro as saying that too many people took a remark of Morrison's that he was interested in revolt, disorder, and chaos “to mean that he was an anarchist, a revolutionary, or worse a nihilist. Hardly anyone noticed that Jim was restating Rimbaud and the Surreal poets.”

From reviewer Judge Victor Valdivia:

The Doors' self-titled debut album caused an immediate sensation when it was released in 1967. It spawned a Number One hit with "Light My Fire" and sold millions of copies worldwide. It would also influence many subsequent musicians for many years to come.

Much of the reaction surrounding the Doors centers on the band's charismatic and controversial frontman, Jim Morrison. Keyboardist Ray Manzarek is a skilled accompanist. Guitarist Robby Krieger is a gifted songwriter and talented musician (and possibly the most underrated guitarist of the era). Drummer John Densmore kept a light, swinging beat without plodding or showing off. Still the Doors was really Morrison's show, and he was, for better and for worse, incapable of any self-restraint. It's hard to imagine now, because so many have imitated and watered down his act, but, back then, rock 'n roll had never seen the likes of Morrison before. No other singer incorporated elements of drama, theatrics, and showmanship to the degree that he had, and, afterwards, it became inconceivable that any singer could perform without at least a little bit of his influence. Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop, Johnny Rotten, Axl Rose, Ian Astbury, Michael Hutchence, Henry Rollins, Perry Farrell (the last two of whom appear on this DVD to sing Morrison's praises): generations of singers have cited him as a crucial influence, the singer they in one form or another emulated the most.

From Entertainment Weekly:

Their appeal was perhaps best explained by critic Lester Bangs: ''The Stones were dirty, but the Doors were dread.'' Formed in L.A. in 1965, the Doors -- Morrison, Manzarek, guitarist Robbie Krieger, and drummer John Densmore -- crammed sex and blues and jazz and death into a heady rock & roll stew that was the perfect soundtrack for a generation bent on breaking down the doors of perception. The group's 1967 ''Light My Fire'' was hardly a pie-eyed hippie anthem. It simmered with an implicit threat in Morrison's half-spoken vocals, an ominous edge to Manzarek's chilly organ playing; the music's understated menace hinted that the singer's love would be incendiary -- and possibly soul shattering. No wonder Morrison called the Doors ''erotic politicians.''

Still, the singer's death only increased the group's mystique -- and worth: The Doors sell more records today than when Morrison was alive. Oliver Stone's 1991 film The Doors boosted their popularity even further. The most recent nod to their following was October's CD release of 1970's Absolutely Live, which captures the band's savagely pristine live sound. In fact, the influence of their best music can be heard throughout rock, from Iggy Pop to Danzig, proving that the fire the Doors lit three decades ago still burns brightly today.


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I love The Doors. But mostly their pop side and not so much their blues side. My favorite Doors album is hands down The Soft Parade, which pretty much everyone else seems to think is one of their weakest.I think Jim Morrison wasn't the only genius in The Doors. Ray Manzarek is a criminally underrated musician. Sure, Robby Krieger was (is) an amazing musician as well, but to me, the typical Doors sound was 45% Jim's voice and 45% Ray's keyboards. "Light My Fire" is a mediocre song without the organ part.


I love the Doors too, but I think The Soft Parade is one of the worst albums ever made, period.  Just all around weak aongs and production.  I knew a girl who loved that album and she used to play it every time I saw her, just to annoy me!

I think their first album is their overall best, although the others have their highlights ("When The Music's Over", "Not To Touch The Earth", and "Peace Frog", among others).
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Quoted from madman

I love the Doors too, but I think The Soft Parade is one of the worst albums ever made, period.  Just all around weak aongs and production.


I like every single song on that album.


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I like the Doors and consider them to be great, a unique contribution to rock. And besides Jim Morrison is a rock-icon, isn`t he? I haven`t heard all their songs but a lot. And some are outstanding. Could you remind me what he died of, it was heartattack, wasn`t it?
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I like the Doors and consider them to be great, a unique contribution to rock. And besides Jim Morrison is a rock-icon, isn`t he? I haven`t heard all their songs but a lot. And some are outstanding. Could you remind me what he died of, it was heartattack, wasn`t it?


That's what in his death certificate, yeah. But since there was no autopsy we'll never know for sure. It has been reported that Jim and his girlfriend used heroin that night, so it could've been an overdose.


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A funny thing that I read in a book about Jim Morrison:

The Doors' drummer John Densmore got some sort of rash on his upper legs shortly after he joined the band. He went to a doctor who told him that it was caused by stress. The rash didn't dissapear until a week after Morrison's death and never returned since. So it's probably safe to say that Jim could really be a pain in the a**...  


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Scott Stapp?  Scott Weiland?  Blowhards.

Morrison's poetry?  Overrated.

The Stones?  Aftermath came out in 1966 -- the Doors were unknowns then.  I don't think the Doors had much impact on the Stones.  It could have been the other way around.

However, I am actually a Doors fan, despite those statements.
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Quoted from Joost


That's what in his death certificate, yeah. But since there was no autopsy we'll never know for sure. It has been reported that Jim and his girlfriend used heroin that night, so it could've been an overdose.


Recently it's been reported that Jim overdosed at a popular club in Paris. Marianne Faithfull was there that night but won't talk. That girl has a lot of stories in her. I wish she'd write a tell all book! Although she'd come out looking horrible so I guess that's not gonna happen.

Here's the story:
Club manager tells his version of Jim Morrison's death

By Angela Doland

The Associated Press

Former Paris nightclub manager Sam Bernett describes Doors singer Jim Morrison's death. No autopsy was ever performed.

PARIS — The official story goes like this: On the last night of Jim Morrison's life, the rocker went to a movie in Paris, listened to records, fell ill and died of heart failure in his bathtub at age 27.

But rumors have always swirled around the death of the Doors frontman, and 36 years later a former Paris nightclub manager is telling a different story. In a new book, Sam Bernett says that Morrison died in a toilet stall of his club after what he believes was a heroin overdose.

He writes of his shock upon finding Morrison's body: "The flamboyant singer of The Doors, the beautiful California boy, had become an inert lump crumpled in the toilet of a nightclub." Bernett, whose French-language book is called "The End: Jim Morrison," says he believes two drug dealers brought Morrison's body back to his apartment.

Though he was pestered for years by reporters investigating Morrison's death, he kept his story quiet until his wife suggested writing a book last year.

"For me it's a very bad [memory]," Bernett said. Rumors have long suggested that Morrison died of an overdose and that he had fallen ill at the nightclub, but witnesses did not come forward.

Patrick Chauvel, a noted war photographer and writer, sometimes helped run the bar at the club. He recalls giving a hand to men who were carrying Morrison in a staircase there.

"I think he was already dead," said Chauvel. Chauvel said he thought an ambulance would have been called if Morrison were still alive.

Stephen Davis, the author of "Jim Morrison: Life, Death, Legend," says he would not rewrite history because of the new book. Based on his reporting, he believes Morrison did overdose at the club, but that it was shortly before his death — not the same night — and that he survived the experience.

Morrison came to Paris in March 1971 at a troubled time in his life. At a 1969 Doors concert in Florida, he was accused of exposing his genitals to the audience. He was convicted of indecent exposure and profanity, and the episode led to promoters canceling concerts and earned the band a stream of negative publicity.

Morrison left for Paris with his appeal pending. There, he lived in a Right Bank apartment with his girlfriend, Pamela Courson, and he wandered the streets, sightseeing and toting around a plastic bag containing his writings. In Paris, he gained so much weight as to become almost unrecognizable, and his health suffered.

He also partied. Morrison spent "practically every night" at the Rock and Roll Circus, the hip Left Bank nightclub that Bernett managed, where stars like Roman Polanski and Marianne Faithfull were regulars, Bernett said.

At around 1 a.m. on July 3, 1971, Morrison went to the club and was joined by two men — drug dealers who sold him heroin for Courson, Bernett said. At one point, Bernett noticed that Morrison had disappeared. Later, the bouncer broke down the door of a locked toilet stall, and they discovered Morrison unresponsive, Bernett said.

Bernett says he asked a doctor, a club customer, to examine the singer.

"When we found him dead, he had a little foam on his nose, and some blood too, and the doctor said, 'That must be an overdose of heroin,' " Bernett said. Bernett added that he did not see Morrison take any heroin that night but said the singer was known to sniff the drug because he was afraid of needles.

Bernett believes the dealers brought Morrison's body home and dropped it into the bathtub, a last attempt to revive him.

Morrison's girlfriend, who died three years later of an overdose, told police an entirely different story.

Courson said the couple went to the movies and out for dinner that night, listened to records and fell asleep. According to her testimony in police records, Morrison awoke in the night feeling ill and took a hot bath. Courson said she found him dead in the tub.

Morrison was buried in Père-Lachaise cemetery, in a small ceremony without fanfare, on July 7, 1971. No autopsy was ever performed.


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