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They are good, anyone like them?




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They have some amazing songs, but most of their stuff blows.
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I like all six of the albums........I could've sworn we had another thread about this earlier as I remember typing something about 'The Soft Parade'.........but yeah, one of the best catalogs of all time.



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the doors rock, but some stuff from their middle period is kinda shitty.



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I really like them, except for the really bluesy songs. I don't like blues.


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the doors rock, but some stuff from their middle period is kinda shitty.


"Waiting for the Sun" wasn't a great album, but it wasn't "shitty" imo......and the other five are holy classics of awesomeness.



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Waiting for the Sun is their best album.
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The first album is great.  Then my favorite songs on the other albums include "LA Woman," "Roadhouse Blues," and "Peace Frog."  

You have to admire Ray M. for playing those bass lines on his organ on some of their stuff, but I think they were a better band when they used real bass.  
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You have to admire Ray M. for playing those bass lines on his organ on some of their stuff, but I think they were a better band when they used real bass.  


Yeah, I think his organ usually sounded a little too thin because he had to play it with just one hand.


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What do you all think of the Soft Parade album? I read a lot of bad reviews for it, but I think it's a pretty good album.


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Here's a rundown of the "Door's Career" short form! Ray meets Jimmy on a beach in Sothern Calif they talk and form the Doors! First Lp stunning "Light My Fire" all time classic song. The rest of the LP great also! "People Are Strange" LP a liitle more out there lyrically and musically! Outstanding songs People Are Strange, Moonlight Mile. Next up "Waiting For The Sun" another stunning song which gets little recognition "Unknown Soldier" (Government didn't like it) War protest song! Morrison's Hotel incredible song called "Roadhouse Blues" great rock/blusey song! Suddenly the establishment has a "H-ON" for Jim and the Doors can't get gigs anywhere? LA Woman LP gives us "Riders On The Storm!!!" another awesome song!!! Live LP in there also double captures Doors sound and is good! AS a band they allways had that 1 hit off each LP which kept their name going!! Big AM hits  Light MY Fire, Hello I Love You, Tell All The People, and Riders On The Storm! They leave their mark on the music scene with a style never duplicated! Didn't hurt that their singer had the most carismatic stage presence of any guy just short of "Elvis!"
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What do you all think of the Soft Parade album? I read a lot of bad reviews for it, but I think it's a pretty good album.


Same here, great album. I like it more than "Waiting For The Sun" and "Morrison Hotel"...



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I used to like "Riders on the Storm" but one time in college I caught a ride from Chapel Hill to Nashville with this guy--they're were six of us in the car--and he insisted on listening to the "LA Woman" album over and over again.  It was his car.  

Somehow hearing "Riders" about fifty times over the course of 10 hours was just too much for me.  It's a great song, but I have to change the radio channels when I hear that thunder clap at the beginning.

Luckily I never got tired of "LA Woman."
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was the song the end their last song?




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haha no.  one of their first actually.



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jim was rather funny.........you can't disregard the effect the doors had on the music industry.jim was larger than life.read the book noone here gets out alive by danny sugarman.....i use to love the doors music but as time wore on it started to sound dirgey.it was kinda eerie.do you know who played bass for them?he use to hide behind a screen.funeral music....just don't rock....jim caused riots...i think his poems are good but not great.horse latitudes and the lizard are faves.if he would have wrote a book,it would have been a million seller.he did more drugs than they made i think....lol to call him a reluctant star seems right but wronmg too...i think the should have called themselves "how big an a** will jim be today"....he was a moody guy.lost in the world of no direction.they rocked....


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I think his drug use is exaggerated. He was a just another drunking Irishman really. At least that's what they implied in that book of which you speak.


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Sucks how they didn't have a bass player and just used bass pedals on the keyboard, that's pretty degrading to bass players.


I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we pass the audition.
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Anybody like them? I think they are great and Morrison was a genius.


"Wings IV introduced Jimmy McCulloch, a spunky lead guitarist with grit, able to spur Paul on unlike any previous soloist. His debut track, the magnificent single `Junior's Farm', stands as one of Wings' finest emotional and technical releases."

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I love The Doors. But mostly their pop side and not so much their blues side. My favorite Doors album is hands down The Soft Parade, which pretty much everyone else seems to think is one of their weakest.

I think Jim Morrison wasn't the only genius in The Doors. Ray Manzarek is a criminally underrated musician. Sure, Robby Krieger was (is) an amazing musician as well, but to me, the typical Doors sound was 45% Jim's voice and 45% Ray's keyboards. "Light My Fire" is a mediocre song without the organ part.


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Light My Fire, Riders on the Storm, Break on Through are some of my favorite songs! It is a shame Jim died so young!



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I like the Doors, but I tend to have mixed reactions to them.  I don't look at Jim Morrison as the mystical genius that his big fans do, but the guy did have talent and charisma.  

Best songs -- People are Strange, Spanish Caravan, Love Her Madly, The Crystal Ship, Whisky Bar, Love Street, Roadhouse Blues, Riders on the Storm, When the Music's Over, Light My Fire (though I've heard it way too much).  I can take or leave The End -- it doesn't do anything for me.

When the movie The Doors came out in '91, I saw it about 4 times in the first month it was out.  My buddies and I would smoke a joint and trip out during it.  Then I saw it a few years later and thought it was sort of cotton-candyish, a tasty treat but without much substance.  I think that's more the fault of Oliver Stone than anything -- all his movies (except maybe Platoon and Wall Street) seem to lack any kind of weighty substance.
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I like all those Doors songs too!

But maybe my favorite is one that isn't talked about much, I love it mainly because of the INCREDIBLY DISTORTED GUITARS at the end - "20th Century Fox". I love the chutzpah/moxie/cojones/your noun here of any group that basically decides "You know, what this song really needs here is white noise .... lots of it! ". Rivals John in "She's So Heavy", maybe even (gasp!) better!

"She's fashionably lean ..."  


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Really....?  Maybe I should listen to 20th Century Fox again!
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Quoted from Mr. Mustard
Really....?  Maybe I should listen to 20th Century Fox again!


I'm going to also!! (If I can find it...)


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I'm reading Ray's biography about his life with the Doors and it's hilarious so far =D He's such a smart a**


"Wings IV introduced Jimmy McCulloch, a spunky lead guitarist with grit, able to spur Paul on unlike any previous soloist. His debut track, the magnificent single `Junior's Farm', stands as one of Wings' finest emotional and technical releases."

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They were definitely a influential and memorable band from the 60's...



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I like the Doors a bunch too, but a small amount can last a long time.


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Quoted from Mr. Mustard
I like the Doors, but I tend to have mixed reactions to them.  I don't look at Jim Morrison as the mystical genius that his big fans do, but the guy did have talent and charisma.  

Best songs -- People are Strange, Spanish Caravan, Love Her Madly, The Crystal Ship, Whisky Bar, Love Street, Roadhouse Blues, Riders on the Storm, When the Music's Over, Light My Fire (though I've heard it way too much).  I can take or leave The End -- it doesn't do anything for me.


What he said!


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Not my sort of thing, but "LA Woman," Light My Fire," and "Roadhouse Blues" are decent enough. Haven't heard The Doors in ages, actually.  
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OK, like I said, I love The Doors. But that didn't keep me from FUBARing ... the song with the distortion from hell wasn't "20th Century Fox", it was "Hello I Love You".

Here is a REALLY cool clip of them playing live in a street, superimposed on the real song. Like John said about "Cold Turkey" - play this LOUD!!!  (the bass way up too!)

"Hello I Love You":    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34wa2jehek


BTW, "20th Century Fox" is pretty excellent too!!  ...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnnWdI74bAQ


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Oh yes and Love Her Madly and & Hello I love You... I love those ones too!



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oh, i love the doors. jim has the coolest voice ever and the organs are amazing.
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They were definitely a influential and memorable band from the 60's...


Memorable, absolutely.  Influential?  That's a tougher call for me.  What bands/performers that followed afterwards would you look at and think, "Obviously heavily influenced by Morrison/the Doors."

I have heard comparisons of Patti Smith to Jim Morrison.
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Maybe influenced was a wrong choice of word... But I think that many people when asked to name some of the greatest bands from the 60's,  many would name The Doors as one of them.  And I think because they were so big, that many up and coming artists probably fed off of that.  Off the top of my head, your right, I can't really think of a band that sounds similiar to them.  But I am sure that they must have influenced many bands.



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Quoted from Mr. Mustard

Memorable, absolutely.  Influential?  That's a tougher call for me.  What bands/performers that followed afterwards would you look at and think, "Obviously heavily influenced by Morrison/the Doors."


Musically they weren't that influencial. But Jim's stage attitude could've been inspirational for a lot of punk bands.


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Uh, have you ever seen Scott Weiland? I think he actually thinks he IS Jim Morrison. Well, sometimes he thinks he Mick Jagger, but it's mostly Jim.  I think you all are underestimating the power of the Doors.

Here's a start anyway.
From Wiki:

Morrison remains one of the most popular and influential singers/writers in rock history, as The Doors' catalog has become a staple of classic rock radio stations. To this day, he is widely regarded as the prototypical rock star: surly, sexy, scandalous and mysterious. The leather pants he was fond of wearing both onstage and off have since become stereotyped as rock star apparel.

Seminal punk rock band Iggy and the Stooges are said to have formed after lead singer Iggy Pop was inspired by Morrison while attending a Doors concert in Ann Arbor, Michigan.[39] One of Iggy Pop's most popular songs, "The Passenger", is said to be based on one of Morrison's poems.[40] After Morrison's death, Iggy was considered as a replacement for Morrison; the surviving Doors gave Iggy some of Morrison's belongings, and hired him as a vocalist for a series of shows.

Wallace Fowlie, professor emeritus of French literature at Duke University, wrote Rimbaud and Jim Morrison, subtitled "The Rebel as Poet – A Memoir." In this book, Fowlie recounts his surprise at receiving a fan letter from Morrison who, in 1968, thanked him for his latest translation of Rimbaud's verse into English. "I don't read French easily", he wrote, "...your book travels around with me." Fowlie went on to give lectures on numerous campuses comparing the lives, philosophies and poetry of Morrison and Rimbaud.

Scott Weiland, the vocalist of Stone Temple Pilots and Velvet Revolver, as well as Scott Stapp of Creed (band) claim Morrison to be their biggest influence and inspiration. Stone Temple Pilots and Velvet Revolver have both covered "Roadhouse Blues" by the Doors. Weiland also filled in for the late-Morrison to perform "Break On Through" with the rest of the Doors . Stapp filled in for Morrison for "Light my fire","Riders on the Storm" and "Roadhouse Blues" on vH1 storytellers. Creed performed their version of "Riders on the storm" with Robbie Krieger for the Woodstock festival.

In Stephen Davis' book Jim Morrison: Life, Death, Legend (2004) the author makes a compelling argument for a case that the Rolling Stones adopted some of the Doors darker edges for their album Aftermath - and beyond. Subsequent tracks like, "Gimme Shelter", "Street Fighting Man" and "You Can't Always Get What You Want" also share lyrical similarities with the dark material in Morrison's songs, which has been both confirmed and denied to be a sign of Morrison having a preference for nihilism.The book The Doors by the remaining Doors quotes Morrison's close friend Frank Lisciandro as saying that too many people took a remark of Morrison's that he was interested in revolt, disorder, and chaos “to mean that he was an anarchist, a revolutionary, or worse a nihilist. Hardly anyone noticed that Jim was restating Rimbaud and the Surreal poets.”

From reviewer Judge Victor Valdivia:

The Doors' self-titled debut album caused an immediate sensation when it was released in 1967. It spawned a Number One hit with "Light My Fire" and sold millions of copies worldwide. It would also influence many subsequent musicians for many years to come.

Much of the reaction surrounding the Doors centers on the band's charismatic and controversial frontman, Jim Morrison. Keyboardist Ray Manzarek is a skilled accompanist. Guitarist Robby Krieger is a gifted songwriter and talented musician (and possibly the most underrated guitarist of the era). Drummer John Densmore kept a light, swinging beat without plodding or showing off. Still the Doors was really Morrison's show, and he was, for better and for worse, incapable of any self-restraint. It's hard to imagine now, because so many have imitated and watered down his act, but, back then, rock 'n roll had never seen the likes of Morrison before. No other singer incorporated elements of drama, theatrics, and showmanship to the degree that he had, and, afterwards, it became inconceivable that any singer could perform without at least a little bit of his influence. Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop, Johnny Rotten, Axl Rose, Ian Astbury, Michael Hutchence, Henry Rollins, Perry Farrell (the last two of whom appear on this DVD to sing Morrison's praises): generations of singers have cited him as a crucial influence, the singer they in one form or another emulated the most.

From Entertainment Weekly:

Their appeal was perhaps best explained by critic Lester Bangs: ''The Stones were dirty, but the Doors were dread.'' Formed in L.A. in 1965, the Doors -- Morrison, Manzarek, guitarist Robbie Krieger, and drummer John Densmore -- crammed sex and blues and jazz and death into a heady rock & roll stew that was the perfect soundtrack for a generation bent on breaking down the doors of perception. The group's 1967 ''Light My Fire'' was hardly a pie-eyed hippie anthem. It simmered with an implicit threat in Morrison's half-spoken vocals, an ominous edge to Manzarek's chilly organ playing; the music's understated menace hinted that the singer's love would be incendiary -- and possibly soul shattering. No wonder Morrison called the Doors ''erotic politicians.''

Still, the singer's death only increased the group's mystique -- and worth: The Doors sell more records today than when Morrison was alive. Oliver Stone's 1991 film The Doors boosted their popularity even further. The most recent nod to their following was October's CD release of 1970's Absolutely Live, which captures the band's savagely pristine live sound. In fact, the influence of their best music can be heard throughout rock, from Iggy Pop to Danzig, proving that the fire the Doors lit three decades ago still burns brightly today.


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Quoted from Joost
I love The Doors. But mostly their pop side and not so much their blues side. My favorite Doors album is hands down The Soft Parade, which pretty much everyone else seems to think is one of their weakest.I think Jim Morrison wasn't the only genius in The Doors. Ray Manzarek is a criminally underrated musician. Sure, Robby Krieger was (is) an amazing musician as well, but to me, the typical Doors sound was 45% Jim's voice and 45% Ray's keyboards. "Light My Fire" is a mediocre song without the organ part.


I love the Doors too, but I think The Soft Parade is one of the worst albums ever made, period.  Just all around weak aongs and production.  I knew a girl who loved that album and she used to play it every time I saw her, just to annoy me!

I think their first album is their overall best, although the others have their highlights ("When The Music's Over", "Not To Touch The Earth", and "Peace Frog", among others).
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