I know this sounds like an odd question, but I'm not totally familiar with George's biography. I'm listening to "Hear me Lord" from ATMP right now, and I'm amazed by George's religious strength.
I myself am not religious, but why do you think he needed such a support from god? Did he go through something tragic in his life? for someone to be so strong with belief you have to really "feel" it I think. The rest weren't as religoius as him.
*my sweet lord *hear me lord(both religious songs, both on atmp)
im not sure why he was religious, but id like to know myself..i think part of the reason, was he just liked the indian way of life, and wanted to be like ravi shankar(extremley talented), at sitar, and i just think he really like the idea...you can see his enthuasiasm about it, if you watch anthologys.
Perhaps it was curiousity and his fascination for Indian culture, but I think religion just seems to make sense for some and no sense for others. George was into religion, but always seemed to irrational to be true.
Religion can help come up with some pretty good song lyrics, though. Perhaps that was his true motive for being religious- to be a better songwriter.
Hear me Lord amazes me too, sometimes. Lovely song
It's hard to explain why someone is religious and someone else isn't. It's just that they have faith- an unwavering belief in their religion. I don't think that you necessarily need to go through something awful to feel connected with God.
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Only 4 people will really ever know what it was like to live in the box they were in. Everyone needs some kind of release or to find some meaning to their lives, and they all handled it in their own ways. John was always looking for the 'truth' through Acid, avant-garde, primal scream, etc. George, I think, was able to maintain his sanity and find peace and meaning through TM and later, Eastern Religion, which served him to his dying hour.
I always regarded George more to be the Beatle about love and peace than John. John was about 'Give Peace A Chance', but he wasn't always this peaceful himself. While George on the other hand tried to find the peace within himself. And that's what made him religious.
This is obviously just speculation, but I always felt that George's religiousness seemed to be a largely aesthetic endeavour.... meaning that he was inspired by the people, images, sounds, culture, etc, but not necessarily the core beliefs. I could really be wrong about that, though.
Well, religious people, I find, have sort of a drive. A purpose, a meaning in their life. Maybe George felt that being a Beatle wasn't satifying to him, so he took up Eastern religion.
You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
This is obviously just speculation, but I always felt that George's religiousness seemed to be a largely aesthetic endeavour.... meaning that he was inspired by the people, images, sounds, culture, etc, but not necessarily the core beliefs. I could really be wrong about that, though.
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You are.
Have you ever heard George talk about his beliefs? He was at the core, definitely.
Well, religious people, I find, have sort of a drive. A purpose, a meaning in their life. Maybe George felt that being a Beatle wasn't satifying to him, so he took up Eastern religion.
That's funny because I have found that very religious people lack a purpose or meaning in life. That's why they grab so tightly onto religion. It gives them a purpose. They would be lost without something telling them what their meaning in life was. But then, I'm not very religious, so this could be my perception as an outsider.
Well, it depends on your classification on what a "very" religious person is. My friends all say I'm so religious, but I don't think I am as religious as I could be. The whole thing about faith is that you don't need anything else. And you have this belief deep inside of you that no one can take away. I think it's like... no matter what happens, you always have your religion and it doesn't change. You don't need to rely on relationships or your career for fulfillment because God is so much more important.
At least that's how I see it. Religion is a very hard thing to try to explain. Like my priest says, "Trying to fit all the mysteries of God into one brain is like trying to pur the entire ocean into one glass."
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Oh, yeah, I forgot to add this. Stealing is wrong, obviously. But people get away with it all the time. I could, too. I could go around stealing stuff and as long as I didn't get caught, who cares, right? The only thing stopping me is knowing that it's a sin. I'm not saying that I have no morals or consience or anything, just that religion helps to guide you. But I don't think it controls you, either. You could up and leave any time. But people who do stick with their religion do it because it's important to them. My life would certainly be more hassle-free without religion but I just... I just love God. He's the Father, I couldn't leave my Father.
I hope that made some sense...
You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
In hell, you get poked with pitchforks and burn in flames. In jail, you get three square meals a day, and if you want anything extra, you can become someone's b****.
I'd take jail over hell any day.
You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
Well, at least with religion you get some standards to go by, it's true. But there are so many. I don't do many things, even though I would like to. Also, I get judged and harassed sometimes because of my religion.
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It was his choice to be how he was. It may be something he related to deeply. Asking why he was like that is like asking why they liked music. It's more something you gravitate towards than say "Hey I'm gonna be religious" But thats just my opinion from my experience.
Well, What can I say. I think George was a mystic person, not a religius person at all. He wanted to discover what God is and how can He manifest in our minds and body. For me, it is was easier for George to do it trhough the eastern believes, because he found harmony with that way of live in India. But he also never wanted to be considered a Saint. He was a human being with great emotions, very good in some momentes, but terrible in others. And I learned to love him just because of this. Unfortunaly I only discovered Mr. Harrison as a human being after his death. Nowadays I have been researching about him. Great man in his last years!
Well, What can I say? I think George was a mystic person, not a religius person at all. He wanted to discover what God is and how can He manifest in our minds and body. For me, it is was easier for George to do it trhough the eastern believes, because he found harmony with that way of live in India. But he also never wanted to be considered a Saint. He was a human being with great emotions, very good in some momentes, but terrible in others. And I learned to love him just because of this. Unfortunaly I only discovered Mr. Harrison as a human being after his death. Nowadays I have been researching about him. Great man in his last years!
George Harrison's widow says that he was preaching to himself
George Harrison's widow Olivia says that some critics and fans misunderstood George's spiritual lyrics as being so serious that they bordered on preachy. Olivia told us that George often used his songs as his own form of spiritual guidance: "He also wrote these things to remind himself. People sometimes accused him of preaching (laughs). But y'know, he was really preaching to himself. He wasn't trying to say, 'You be like this because I'm already like this.' No, he was always trying to remind himself. And that's the reason he liked India so much, because he said that, 'Everywhere you went, there was a reminder.'"
Nothing wrong with being preachy. It can touch people predisposed to it. And the others can just enjoy the song without thinking of the lyrics. George's spirituality gave a fine dimension to Beatles' music. John the progressive, Paul the ambitious, George the spiritual, and Ringo the fun(ny).
Apparently there's a spiritual gene scientists have discovered.
Any info on why George dropped the Indian/world music thing before the Beatles finished? As far as I know Indian music is not on any of his solo albums.
I think he realised he'd hit a dead end with it. Plus he was hanging out with Dylan, Clapton and co. And British rock in general was becoming more blues based by 68, and Indian music just didn't fit they way it had with psychedlia. Whatever the reason - praise the lord.
. John the progressive, Paul the ambitious, George the spiritual, and Ringo the fun(ny).
Apparently there's a spiritual gene scientists have discovered.
Ooh. You'll need to explain that progressive/ambitious thing a bit more. And I'd have to disagree that George's Beatle music was any more spiritual than the others. Hey Jude, Let It Be, Blackbird, Mother Natures Son, Long and Winding Road, Fool On The Hill are as "spiritual" as anything I can think of George's. And Taxman and Piggies aren't exactly dripping with good kharma. Sorry, those old stereotype tags just don't ring true for me. I'd say Paul was every bit as progressive as John.
Apparently there's a spiritual gene scientists have discovered.
Interesting. Though I would have thought the discovery that it is genetics that predisposes us to sprituality just shows that it has nothing to do with gods, or kharma or any thing supernatural, but just another evolutionary tool to help humans be a dominant species.
Ooh. You'll need to explain that progressive/ambitious thing a bit more. And I'd have to disagree that George's Beatle music was any more spiritual than the others. Hey Jude, Let It Be, Blackbird, Mother Natures Son, Long and Winding Road, Fool On The Hill are as "spiritual" as anything I can think of George's. And Taxman and Piggies aren't exactly dripping with good kharma. Sorry, those old stereotype tags just don't ring true for me. I'd say Paul was every bit as progressive as John.
We had the debate last year about John being progressive, and Paul ambitious. I don't want to go over it again. At least, it fits how I see it. I just like the idea that each member had a kind of loose theme. Really, I think, of all the things they innovated, the idea of themes in music seems to be yet another one of them. The bands that followed in their wake had themes - alienation for Pink Floyd and Supertramp, Celtic and Indian fascination with Led Zeppelin, space with Hawkwind, lyrical landscapes with Yes, world music and then spirituality with Santana, etc.
But, they did cross over into each others 'territory', if that's what it was. George was obviously the most explicitly spiritual.
I think you're right about the Indian music thing being a dead end.
We had the debate last year about John being progressive, and Paul ambitious. I don't want to go over it again.
I respect your opinions. John could be progressive and George could be spiritual. I just find Paul's (one of the generations finest songwriters, musicians and performers) contribution being summed up as "ambition" a bit irksome. But you're right, we've both stated our cases.
I respect your opinions. John could be progressive and George could be spiritual. I just find Paul's (one of the generations finest songwriters, musicians and performers) contribution being summed up as "ambition" a bit irksome. But you're right, we've both stated our cases.
Somebody else here suggested Paul as the ambitious one, and I thought that suited him. I just like the rose-tinted view of it like the four 'areas'. Seems to add colour to the whole thing.
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