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somedude210
September 29, 2005, 7:22pm Report to Moderator

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anyone ever wonder if John was the most hated beatle in the decade after the break up and before his death? If any of them was hated or dispised by a majority of people, would it be him or another beatle?
it's possible since i mean its yoko. yoko is the reason most people used for the break up of their favorite band, so he probably would be blamed and hated for it. he also did that whole jesus thing and lost support from a majority of the south. His protests and peace "shinanigans" also turned somepeople off cause he was too radical.


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September 29, 2005, 7:47pm Report to Moderator

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Oh blah blah blah. STFU.

You know that Paul is the most persecuted Beatle (and the least deserving, I might add) thanks to people like you.


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somedude210
September 29, 2005, 11:38pm Report to Moderator

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whoa whoa whoa, what did I say. i said that John is probably the most hated.

...well during the beatles, after the breakup and before his untimely death. i dont think i paul bashed.


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Mairi
September 30, 2005, 1:32pm Report to Moderator

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John's not the most hated, people practically made him into a saint.

For Pete Doherty's sake! Open your eyes, man!


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Please don't mention his name ^


Whats the matter lads? Blue Meanies?

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September 30, 2005, 2:43pm Report to Moderator

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i dont mean after he was shot. most people look at the better side of people once they're dead. I mean before the beatles broke up during the jesus thing and the ten years after...BEFORE he died


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He was hated by Nixon. Public wise, he was out of the spotlight for 5 years though, so it's hard to say.


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No, John was the most loved before and after his death. Paul was a 50/50 deal. Either people loved him or people hated him. Lets be honest, even when the Beatles were together and on the verge of breaking up, Paul stood against the other three. Remember the court dates and so forth. It was ugly and people didnt like it. Yoko,,,well,,,,,,Mairi was right,,,blah, blah, blah,,,STFU.


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Its a stupid thread. Whoever said any of the Beatles were hated?
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October 1, 2005, 12:17am Report to Moderator

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I agree




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jesus lovin americans of the 60's. thats who hated a beatle, if not all.


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That was mostly in the Southern states, and for a short period of time. Please let's not bring religion into this. I think we all know my views on the subject.


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jesus lovin americans of the 60's. thats who hated a beatle, if not all.


Yeah. And that lasted all of what? A few months? In this country 'Yesterday and Today' and 'Revolver' both went to #1. In an interesting contrast, the night they played in Memphis, there were over 30,000 people that attended the show. That same night, there was a Christian rally that drew around 5, 000 people. But that has nothing to do with your post. Your question was if John was the most hated after the breakup and before his death. Answer-No. Then you downshift into the 'Jesus' thing which is equally as lame as your thread. But, who knows? Maybe another bait by our resident Sociologist.
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Hasn't there been a lot of Ringo-bashing over the years too? Largely by people who probably don't listen to the Beatles much, if at all, and just assume that he must have been a bad drummer. Here in the UK there used to be a puppet show called Spitting Image which made Ringo out to be an incompetent drummer. But Beatles fans know that he was just what the other three guys wanted and needed, in terms of both his drumming and his personality.


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^ Never heard a bad word said about him. I remember when I was 8 (1966) and we used to run around saying Ringo was the best drummer in the world (because he was a Beatle:  I had no idea what a good drummer was). So maybe his elevation by psychophantic fans has raised the odd comment. But anti -Ringo? No way.

Definately an anti-Paul movement in the 70's by the "serious rock press" (don't know about fans - no internet in those days). Always called the new Perry Como, producing pap while John made "real" music. It was definately very uncool to say you like McCartney (to muso-type people anyhow). All clap trap of course, and I'm glad history is being redressed.

John was held in the highest regard before his death. If anyone, McCartney was  blamed for the breakup (wanting his inlaws as managers etc). Now all seems to be changing.

A book about the history of the history of The Beatles would be very interesting indeed.


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Quoted from somedude210
His protests and peace "shinanigans" also turned somepeople off cause he was too radical.


He wasn't radical enough! That 'bed-in' or 'peace-in' thing wasn't radical - it was just silly!


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Every artist, heck every person, has someone who will dislike them for some petty reason. It means nothing. If there is any doubt on whether the beatles were liked or not look around. We are in 2005 and they are still well-liked and well remembered.


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No kidding. They are still the biggest band in the world. Didn't One break their own record or something? No one will ever be bigger or more liked by a wide variety of people than the BEATLES! And who cares about Jesus loving Southerners? They only used Jesus as a reason to burn crosses and spew hatred anyway. And they probably weren't into the Beatles to begin with. Like John said, they were mostly middle aged men and 12 year old girls.


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I think the original point here was that John Lennon was easily the most polarizing member of the band.  Paul may have taken a lot of criticism for producing overly commercial pop in the '70s, but John also took knocks for being too hardcore with his musical direction.  And there was the Yoko factor. And the peace movement, which historically is looked upon as an example of his great humanity, but at the time, most of the mainstream world -- including many Beatles fans -- thought the guy was going daffy with his bed-ins and bagism.

So yes, I think John was hated by certain segments of society in the 1970s.  But what truly great human being isn't hated?
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