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Quoted from MagicAlex
my favorite Beatles songs go to about 75% McCartney 20%Lennon 5%George and it does seems like Macca was the one in the driver's seat during their best period.


I think that 2/3 to 3/4 of my favorite Beatles songs are Paul's.


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^Thought so. And if you consider that their best period you'd be right, Paul was the man. But, if you think 62 - 66 is their peak, then  John would get the nod. So it's  even-stevens?
ps I'm a 62-66 man (I prefer listening to post '66 Beatles, but regard the earlier period as their more important)


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I have a theory that the aggressive John fans or aggressive Paul fans (each of whom tries to discount the value of the other) suffer from a lack of personality integration.  Lacking harmony or a coherent sense of identity within, they project their own internal discord onto the mythic figures of John and Paul.  The Paul devotees were probably potty-trained too early and the John devotees weren't potty-trained at all.  

Seriously, it seems the Paul fans as a group are more self-confident and satisfied and don't seek an identity from the music, but rather entertainment.  The John fans seek a voice/identity--they don't want entertainment and seem to suffer from the same vulnerabilities that John projected in his songs.  Let's face it, although both John and Paul lose their mothers (and perhaps the reason behind their ill-conceived teenage blood-brother 50/50 songwriting agreement), John seems to have suffered from drug abuse, codependency and mental illness (including paranoia and borderline personality disorder) much more than the relatively sane and mentally healthy (if at times overbearing and brusque) Paul.  

I think we ought to accept the John vs. Paul conflict as a window on the form of modern mass psychosis that we called "the entertainment industry."


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 ^Thought so. And if you consider that their best period you'd be right, Paul was the man. But, if you think 62 - 66 is their peak, then  John would get the nod. So it's  even-stevens?
ps I'm a 62-66 man (I prefer listening to post '66 Beatles, but regard the earlier period as their more important)



I'm down with that.



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If anything, John was more egotostical than Paul. Look at his songs, they're all "me, me, me."
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Except for We Can Work It Out, at least; every time I hear it, I notice that it's all from Paul's point of view. Nothing like 'I tried to see it your way' in the lyrics.


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WCWIO is mostly a song from Paul. John's part is the 'Life is very short'-thing.
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^Right.
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WCWIO is mostly a song from Paul. John's part is the 'Life is very short'-thing.



John almost makes the song into a kind of peace and understanding thing with that part. I suppose there's two ways of listening to it.

That part originally put me onto the idea some time ago that Paul's songs are not so good without John to 'come in' on them - plus something I once read by a journalist. Of course, it's not true - now I realise! Since I've been here!  


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Quoted from adamzero
I have a theory that the aggressive John fans or aggressive Paul fans (each of whom tries to discount the value of the other) suffer from a lack of personality integration.  Lacking harmony or a coherent sense of identity within, they project their own internal discord onto the mythic figures of John and Paul.  The Paul devotees were probably potty-trained too early and the John devotees weren't potty-trained at all.  

Seriously, it seems the Paul fans as a group are more self-confident and satisfied and don't seek an identity from the music, but rather entertainment.  The John fans seek a voice/identity--they don't want entertainment and seem to suffer from the same vulnerabilities that John projected in his songs.  Let's face it, although both John and Paul lose their mothers (and perhaps the reason behind their ill-conceived teenage blood-brother 50/50 songwriting agreement), John seems to have suffered from drug abuse, codependency and mental illness (including paranoia and borderline personality disorder) much more than the relatively sane and mentally healthy (if at times overbearing and brusque) Paul.  

I think we ought to accept the John vs. Paul conflict as a window on the form of modern mass psychosis that we called "the entertainment industry."




Best post I've read ina long while.


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