If we were going by this, like if this was a barometer, how easy is it to play Moon's drum parts?
Damn near impossible,,,,,,,for me anyways.
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Or Bonham's?
I've had more luck with Bonham than most other drummers, but I cant copy his sound and I try to copy his feel as best as possible, but the important word is,,,,copy! These drummers invented this stuff. I could copy and repaint the Mona Lisa, but does that make my copy better? I think not.
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Is it really hard to emulate them, or is that a myth?
No, this is fact. I've yet to see drummers do it right.
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Plus, even if you could, wouldn't the fact that they came first also put them on top? I mean, there's a lot of imitators out there, but who did what first.
The timelines to vast for me to even get into. I mean, Bonzo's peers were Buddy Rich and Carmen Appice from vanilla Fudge (he really actually copied Carmens style but took it a step further). As for Moonie, that freestyle controlled chaos is just him and i've never heard that style before in the context of an actual band. I'm sure there were some before, but maybe not.
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And then there's personality. I mean, nothing to do with drumming, but Ringo and Moon are a bit more fun to watch then your average drummer. Ringo has personality. Moon had personality plus.
I'd say stage presence is one of the most important things for a musician. How many concerts have you seen where the musicians were awesome, but they were boring as hell to watch? Makes a 'should have been great show' into just an average show. Look at Abe Laborial from Maccas band. I have a hard time watching Paul because Abe steals the show.
***Talking about Moonie and Bonzo makes me give a shout out to Ian Paice from Deep Purple. I think he's as good or better than the two previous mentions.***
Better? I really can't comment because I don't listen to a whole lot of Deep Purple. I did see them in the 80's though. Was he the drummer then?
Not to sound stupid or anything, but what makes it hard to play Moon's parts? I have no idea. The speed? Or his technique. When I watch him, his arms and legs seem to be flailing about in all directions. Although he found time to twirl and toss his sticks in the middle of all that.
I think Abe is great. I've learned to appreciate how great he is since I insulted his Super Bowl performance! It was just that it didn't sound like Ringo to me so it annoyed me. I mean, I don't think you should mess with a Beatle song. But that's a different story. Anyway, as good as Abe is, when Paul is on the stage, my eyes don't move from him. No way, no how.
If we were going by this, like if this was a barometer, how easy is it to play Moon's drum parts? Or Bonham's? Is it really hard to emulate them, or is that a myth? Plus, even if you could, wouldn't the fact that they came first also put them on top? I mean, there's a lot of imitators out there, but who did what first. And then there's personality. I mean, nothing to do with drumming, but Ringo and Moon are a bit more fun to watch then your average drummer. Ringo has personality. Moon had personality plus.
Exactly, I was just watching anthology 3 dvd, when they had that guy fill in for Ringo in Amsterdam and Hong Kong when he was sick, He played the part but Ringo brings so much personality. I never realized how complicated any Beatles song was on any instrument.
Exactly, I was just watching anthology 3 dvd, when they had that guy fill in for Ringo in Amsterdam and Hong Kong when he was sick,
Sorry to interrupt, but The Beatles never had a gig in Amsterdam. They made a trip through the canals however. They had an afternoon and evening gig in the little village of Blokker. And that is about 10 kms from where I am at this moment. I drive by the venue almost every day.
Sorry to interrupt, but The Beatles never had a gig in Amsterdam. They made a trip through the canals however. They had an afternoon and evening gig in the little village of Blokker. And that is about 10 kms from where I am at this moment. I drive by the venue almost every day.
Lucky you! ... Sad that they didn't played in more countries and more times ... Except 4, I think, (UK, US, Germany and Sweden) they only played in other countries just once ... the list is very short ... even here in Europe
Better? I really can't comment because I don't listen to a whole lot of Deep Purple. I did see them in the 80's though. Was he the drummer then?
Yeah, Ian's always been the drummer. Sandra, do yourself a favor and listen to some of Deep purples 'Burn' album. Especially listen to the song "Lay Down Stay Down". Incredible.
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Not to sound stupid or anything, but what makes it hard to play Moon's parts? I have no idea. The speed? Or his technique. When I watch him, his arms and legs seem to be flailing about in all directions. Although he found time to twirl and toss his sticks in the middle of all that.
Speed definately and his style is just so awkward. He usually didnt use a hi-hat and did all his playing on a ride and he uses the double bass as a crutch with his fills. This and his knack as to not play the same thing twice is just strange.
I have no idea what a ride is. But I know what a hi hat is! I think Moon used to close it so it was only opened a crack. Didn't Ringo do something with the hi hat. Like innovative or different? For some reason I feel like I read something like that. Anyway, I used to listen to a lot of Deep Purple and their off shoot Rainbow, but it's been years. I will definitely give them a listen. I don't know why I never bought a cd of theirs. I had a couple of records in the olden days though.
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