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Kevin
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[quote=551Kevin, I'm puzzled why you think not a penny of the Bangladesh concerts went to the needy.  According to the UNICEF website, "the concert also made history by raising an unprecedented $10 million – making it the single largest such benefit ever held."    That is certainly a status that he earned, and he did it from the heart.[/quote]

maybe I'm wrong. Though it was no fault of his own I'm sure I read all the money was swallowed up by lawyers and the taxman. Forgive me if I'm wrong, and I have no doubt that George's intentions were nothing but sincere.
And it's great that he affects people in such a positive way. I'm sure he would be (and if he was right, is) very happy with that legacy.


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I forgot about George just then.  
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No sweat, Kevin! If you were following the story at the time (which I was not), I can see how after 8 years or so you'd come to the conclusion that this money was never going to be released. But it eventually worked out.

Rolling Stone has an updated paragraph on the Bangladesh concert figures-- I found it today after reading about the new Ringo Starr article.

Ticket proceeds for the Concert for Bangladesh totaled $243,418, which went to UNICEF. That seems modest in an age of megabenefits (Live Aid raised $60 million in a single day), but Olivia estimates that continuing donations since 1971, in the form of artist royalties from the movie and album, are at about $15 million. "That's one of the lessons of Bangladesh -- the simplicity of it, that you can have a great effect without big screens and sponsors," she says, noting that in 1973, Harrison established his own Material World Charitable Foundation to quietly continue what he had started. On his 1974 U.S. tour, Harrison donated the money from three shows to the foundation. "He just never told anybody," Olivia says.

"George didn't blow his own horn much," says his wife, Olivia. "But he knew what he had done. He put something out there that people could learn from."

From here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/ringostarr/articles/story/8652068/harrison_show_revisited


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George is probably the most underappreciated Beatle. Even Ringo gets more spotlight...probably 'cause he's alive though...

Any thoughts why? I know he wasn't part of the major songwriting team, that he wasn't one of the lead singers...but he was absolutely brilliant! Why has George been forgotten about?



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I don't know why there aren't any George or Ringo shirts for sale. There's The Beatles, John and Paul shirts but no George or Ringo shirts?  


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If I had to choose, I would probably consider Ringo the most underappreciated Beatle.  I am really enjoying his march towards geezerhood.

That said, I think that part of the reason why George is underappreciated is because of his own activities, or lack thereof.  As Olivia said above, he hated to blow his own horn.  I think he honestly was more interested in having fun with friends and family, and following his spiritual pursuits, then having any kind of career or being popular.  After he contracted cancer, I think he became even more this way.  He wanted to putter in his garden, and putter in his studio, and honestly didn't give a whoop for what the rest of the world thought, except when it came to making his friends happy.

So I can't blame the general public for not knowing more about George when he fought so diligently to preserve his privacy.  It does make me feel very fortunate that I do know more about him than the average person.  His example and his music have enriched my life, and I'm very grateful for that.


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Quoted from The Fox Drummer
George is probably the most underappreciated Beatle. Even Ringo gets more spotlight...probably 'cause he's alive though...

Any thoughts why? I know he wasn't part of the major songwriting team, that he wasn't one of the lead singers...but he was absolutely brilliant! Why has George been forgotten about?


I think because some (lots of) people wouldn't agree with the brilliant bit. For most people he's the guy who wrote Something and Here Comes The Sun, got sued for My Sweet Lord and as part of the answer to a pub quiz/Triv Pursuit question about the Travelling Wilbury's.
Lennon and McCartney were super-great songwriters and performers. For most of the great unwashed George was the guitarist who knocked out a handful of good tunes.
To be fair, whenever I listen to Revolver I admire the sheer guts and vision of George to dare to put Indian music on a pop album, let alone doing it in 1966. Unfortunately most people find it nothing more than an annoyance. It seems a matter of debate as to whether this act was a great leap forward or a journey down a blind alley.
And as Harihead said he chose to lower his profile towards the end. You can't blame the public really. Rock can be a very mean, unsentimental business. And I'm not  convinced that George has earned his place as a Guevera/Beatles/Marley/Curbain t-shirt icon.


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If I had to choose, I would probably consider Ringo the most underappreciated Beatle.  I am really enjoying his march towards geezerhood.


He seems to grow old gracefully!!




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Rock can be a very mean, unsentimental business. And I'm not  convinced that George has earned his place as a Guevera/Beatles/Marley/Curbain t-shirt icon.

Perhaps the rock business can be very mean and unsentimental, but surely some enterprising company somewhere won't mind providing sentimental George fans with a souvenir T-shirt.  After all, I don't think the bar for becoming a T-shirt icon is set particularly high.  



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Quoted from harihead

[...]After all, I don't think the bar for becoming a T-shirt icon is set particularly high.  

Not particularly high at all! I've seen all kind of T-shirts with lesser heard stars and many local ones too ...

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The fans won't never forget George but I'm afraid that, after more than 5 years since he died, the industry and the public in general has forgotten him. Where are the new albums? The unreleased tracks and all that stuff? I thought Olivia was going to release some of the unknown stuff in the previous years but I'm still waiting. A shame!


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The fans won't never forget George but I'm afraid that, after more than 5 years since he died, the industry and the public in general has forgotten him. Where are the new albums? The unreleased tracks and all that stuff? I thought Olivia was going to release some of the unknown stuff in the previous years but I'm still waiting. A shame!


Not exactly "new" stuff but the Traveling Wilburys catalogue will be released in a month or so:
http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-harrison/m-1161328756/s-0/
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Of course, George hasn't been forgotten.  After all, he is one of the founding fathers of the United States.  The capital is named after him--and he's the only president with a state named after him too.  

Of course the "public" with its short attention span looks to Kennedy and even Clinton as "great presidents" but George, Abe and TJ were the real thing.  

Long live George!
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Long live George!

A bit late, don't you think so, my friend?  

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Um, well, at least he's still on the dollar bill .  .  .
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