Did Ringo write any more than three songs in the 60s, would anybody know? I'm including Taking A Trip To Carolina of course. Is there a list anywhere on the net?
The fact that they included Ringo in the credit seems to show that there was a real desire to get him as involved as possible. Wish he could have made a few more of his own compositions onto the records though.
I distinctly remember reading several years ago in a music mag that Ringo outsold all other three Beatles combined for solo albums in the first five years after they split!!! Incredible but (apparently) true! I'm not negatively surprised - all power to the ultimate working class hero himself!
The fact that they included Ringo in the credit seems to show that there was a real desire to get him as involved as possible. Wish he could have made a few more of his own compositions onto the records though. ...
He tried to record his Don't Pass Me By during the Guymania (I'm not sure if it was in 1963 but at least it was before 1965 cos Ringo mentioned it -and Paul answered to him- in a radio interview in 1964) but the rest of them didn't want to ... As I' said before in other thread: I'd prefered Don't Pass Me By in Guys For Sale better than in The Guys album.
George and Ringo were the insider/outsiders I guess. I reaffirm with Raxo again - DPMB absolutely belongs on Beatles For Sale, or thereabouts. It just sounds like an earlier phase guys song, I think.
George and Ringo were the insider/outsiders I guess. I reaffirm with Raxo again - DPMB absolutely belongs on Beatles For Sale, or thereabouts. It just sounds like an earlier phase guys song, I think.
Agreed. And even still better, they never should have done any cover versions, but recorded now 'lost' songs instead!
He tried to record his Don't Pass Me By during the Guymania (I'm not sure if it was in 1963 but at least it was before 1965 cos Ringo mentioned it -and Paul answered to him- in a radio interview in 1964) but the rest of them didn't want to ... As I' said before in other thread: I'd prefered Don't Pass Me By in Guys For Sale better than in The Guys album.
In an interview in Auckland, New Zealand Ringo's talking about his song Don't Pass Me By and Carl Perkins made him nervous being at the "Matchbox" recording session. The song was written in 1963 and Paul sang it in the interview (Jun 24th, 1964) ... why was Paul singing it? Because three weeks later ...
... in another interview ... Paul sang it partially and then he claimed that he wrote the melody (July 14th, 1964)
AUCKLAND, June 24, 1964 by Bob Rogers ROYAL INTERNATIONAL HOTEL
Q: Is there any chance that either Ringo or George is going to start writing some songs? I mean, will they -
RINGO: Well, actually, George has written a few songs, and he'll tell you all about them now.
GEORGE: I'll tell 'em what - yeah. Actually, I wrote one that was recorded.
PAUL: "Don't Bother Me", only one of the most sensational songs ever.
GEORGE: Tried writing a few more, but they were laughed off.
PAUL: No, no George!
JOHN: They weren't, George.
PAUL: [hums a bit of "You'll Know What To Do"] Copyright!
GEORGE: That's my tune.
JOHN: George wrote a very good tune on the second LP.
GEORGE: Oh! John'll tell 'em.
JOHN: Which is called "Don't Bother Me". Which a lot of people won't e- they'll think it's ours, anyway, but George did write it, and a very strong tune, George.
GEORGE: But, as far as Ringo and I are concerned, we'll leave the songwriting to...
RINGO: Excuse me! Paul's gonna sing the one I've written!
PAUL: No, I can't re- I can't quite remember it.
RINGO: Well, I'll get - just for a plug, Paul.
PAUL: But even so, we just - Ringo has written one called "Don't pass me by, don't make me cry, don't make me blue." A beautiful melody. Sincere, folks.
RINGO: That's it, yeah.
PAUL: "Don't Pass Me By," it's called.
RINGO: That's what it's called.
GEORGE: But Elvis killed it!
PAUL: Sincere thought, sir, but...
RINGO: Elvis killed it.
Q: What?
GEORGE: When he did it.
RINGO: Oh.
Q: Elvis killed it.
RINGO: No, he didn't.
PAUL: No, but you really - this is Ringo's first venture into songwriting.
JOHN: And are you going to sing it for us now, Ringo?
RINGO: I'm not going to sing it, Paul's going to sing it.
PAUL: [singing] "Don't pass me by/don't make me cry/don't make me blue, yeah".
RINGO: It's got a blues feeling.
PAUL: A blues feeling, y'know. "You know darlin' I love onl-"...
JOHN: Country and western. Crumbly and western, one of those.
RINGO: Well, it was gonna be a western, but Paul sang it the other night as blues feeling, and it knocked me out.
JOHN: It knocked you out, even though you wrote it?
RINGO: In fact, I'm gonna get a tape of him singing it for me very own.
Q: Are The Beatles going to record it?
RINGO: I don't know.
PAUL: You never know.
RINGO: But I don't think so, actually, I keep tryin' to push it on them every time we make a record.
JOHN: And we always try and do, but... unluckily, there's never quite enough time to fit Ringo's songs on. Because he never finishes it!
RINGO: It's finished!
PAUL: It's finished.
RINGO: We finished it.
JOHN: After 18 years...
Q: Ringo, why don't you give it to The Rolling Stones?
[pause]
JOHN: Well, answer that, Ringo!
RINGO: I - I don't -
PAUL: Answer that...
RINGO: I refuse to answer that one.
PAUL: You know why? Because this song has got a sentimental attachment for us. And it's just one of those songs, like a old ring, that he'd never give away.
This could mean Paul was somehow involved with this song.
Yep, ... and Ringo insisted Paul to sing it: Paul (melody) and Ringo (lyrics)? My first source was this one (where it's said that Ringo "wrote" it mostly in 1963):
I've not got that one, but it has to be, yep. There's a serie of bootlegs (about 6 or 8 discs, I think) including almost everything they said in interviews and press conferences.
I remembered later that What Goes On was tried to be recorded on March 5th, 1963 with Ringo on vocals, ... they tried it out at evening but they gave up on it for the time.
Another one that could have been on Guys For Sale ... it'd fit quite well too, acording to the arrangement and George guitar work-very similar to some tracks of the album. If you listen to it without thinking it's on Rubber Soul it seems that belongs to Guys For Sale era.
I remembered later that What Goes On was tried to be recorded on May 3rd, 1963 with Ringo on vocals, ... they tried it out at evening but they gave up on it for the time.
Another one that could have been on Guys For Sale ... it'd fit quite well too, acording to the arrangement and George guitar work-very similar to some tracks of the album. If you listen to it without thinking it's on Rubber Soul it seems that belongs to Guys For Sale era.
So, there's a demo of it? Which didn't make Anthology in that case.
So, there's a demo of it? Which didn't make Anthology in that case.
"Tues. 3/5/63 RECORDING SESSION: EMI Studio #2 The engineer is Norman Smith. ... WHAT GOES ON (Takes UNK) S: Ringo W: Lennon .6/McCartney .2/Starkey .2 One source claims Beatles tried this song out this evening, but gave up on it for the time. It's not in studio logs. Unreleased if recorded"
Tho it's not the first time I read something like that about this song ... it seems that it was composed by John and Ringo and Paul helped at the end with the lyrics. Maybe the lyrics were not finished by 1963 and they finished by 1965 for Rubber Soul.
One thing, too usual, about their first years of recording career it's that some takes of sessions (reels or anything) didn't survive ...
Here's an excerpt from Top Gear in early 1964, where the Beatles are talking about Don't Pass Me By. Paul is singing a line from the song. I found it in BBC Upgraded, that The End uploaded in our very own bootlegforums!
I get the impression that Ringo's voice is more suited to the earlier rock and roll numbers like Honey Don't, Matchbox and I Wanna Be Your Man. Does anyone else get that impression?
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