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It's the cannabis or me, Heather told McCartney

by MATT BORN, Daily Mail

23rd January 2006

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag.....&in_page_id=1773

Sir Paul McCartney had to fulfil one important condition before Heather Mills agreed to marry him, she revealed yesterday.
He had to agree to stop smoking cannabis.

Heather Mills McCartney - as she now calls herself - said her husband would use the drug as regularly as others drink cups of tea.

"Him and (his first wife) Linda smoked it every day for the whole of their lives together," she said of a relationship that lasted more than 30 years. "But I would not get married to him if he was taking drugs. I hate it.

"I could not have him lying to our child (they have a two-year-old daughter, Beatrice) about not taking drugs and then going out for a sneaky puff."

Despite having slept on the streets as a teenager and then spent several years working as a model - both worlds where drug abuse is rife - 37-year-old Heather said she had never been tempted to experiment herself.

"I've never taken drugs in my life," she said.

"One time at Ascot two models ran into the toilets and sniffed some cocaine off the cistern and I was, like, totally shocked.

"I never drank either until I met Paul. I was drunk (recently) on two glasses of wine at a Christmas party. I'm a very cheap date."

Her abstinence is in marked contrast to the early years of her 63-year-old husband, whom she married in 2002.

As a Beatle, he was a the forefront of the Sixties psychedelic revolution. And in an interview two years ago, he said that drugs had "informed" much of the band's music including songs such as Got to Get You Into My Life (which was about pot) and Day Tripper (about LSD).

He also admitted that he had tried both heroin and cocaine when the Beatles were in their prime.

In 1980, McCartney was arrested at Tokyo airport after customs officials discovered half a pound of marijuana in his luggage. He spent ten days in a Japanese prison cell before being released and deported.

Despite his habit, it appears Sir Paul had little difficulty giving up smoking dope following his fiancee's ultimatum. "He says he had a good incentive," she said when asked if he had found it hard to stop.

Heather said her revulsion of drugs came from having spent time counselling addicts.

"Fifty per cent of people can smoke joints their entire life and be fine. But the other 50 per cent, if there is a history of depression in their family or in their genes, then they can not smoke marijuana."

Given her own family's history of mental instability, she was sure that she "go wacky" if she ever tried it, she said.

In the interview with the Observer magazine, Heather said she was having difficulty sleeping because of screeching voices in her head.

"It was good," she said, when asked about being with her husband during his current tour of America, "but I didn't sleep well. The screaming always goes on in my head."

Confused, the interviewer inquired whether she was referring to Sir Paul's fans screaming outside the hotel - before being put straight.

"The screaming of the dogs and cats I had seen on the videos (about animals being skinned alive in China for their fur)," she said.

"Little puppy dogs and girl private cats, their faces so trusting. Just before the noose comes."

Heather, who is campaigning for a EU wide ban on fur from China, was also scathing about celebrities who wear fur such as Naomi Campbell.

She described the London-born supermodel as a "stupid, superficial hypocrite" after she started modelling fur having previously led a campaign for Peta, the animal welfare group.

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Sounds like a good topic for a pol!!


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Quoted from The_End
Sounds like a good topic for a pol!!


An easy one!!!  
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and I was, like, totally shocked.


Like OMG!



You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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CANNABIS! CHOOSE THE CANNABIS!!

I mean, she's got a point, but he seems to have done fine all these years with it. Now I know why he and Linda always had droopy eyes.


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Linda never stood in the way of Paul and a good puff.

Not that I'm endorsing drug use...


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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cannabis is nothing .. just like alcohol when evaluated.
Anything stronger, and I will be the first to go against..


Whats the matter lads? Blue Meanies?

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Linda didn't get in the way of anything. That's why he married her. She was passive. With him anyway. Not that I'm saying that's wrong. Hey, I would have done the same if I had the chance to be Mrs. McCartney.


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I wouldn't say she was passive about everything, she just liked pot.


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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I wouldn't say she was passive about everything, she just liked pot.


I mean she sort of let him run the show. She was more or less at his bidding.










Again, if it were Paul....


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It's a shame that some people are gossip, gossip, gossip about things they don't really know anything about.

Anyways, you go ahead talk more talk, chat more chat......
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It's called an opinion and everyone is entitled to have one. Half the posts on here are opinion. And yeah, we will talk and talk. This is a message board. That's sort of the purpose. You know, to share opinions. You want just the facts, then you're in the wrong place. People discuss, people chat, and yeah, sometimes it's frivilous. So what? I don't think you need to be insulting.


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Linda wasn't a pushover by any means. I remember reading an article/interview that started off with the interviewer entering the house, asking if Paul was ready, and she said he was upstairs having a snit. She went up and told him he was being childish and the company had arrived, and he (the interviewer) said he was taken aback that someone would talk to Paul McCartney that way. She didn't steal any of the spotlight because she knew what the score was, but she held her own. They kept their family life incredibly private given the circumstances, so I've got to disagree with Sandra about this one.
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CANNABIS! CHOOSE THE CANNABIS!!

I mean, she's got a point, but he seems to have done fine all these years with it. Now I know why he and Linda always had droopy eyes.


Meh, If he has been doing it for that long, that is who he is, he likes to do it. Why try to change him? Either deal with it or leave.
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Okay. It just seemed that she sort of put her life on hold for him. You know, it was all about him. But maybe that's what she wanted. I think he was lucky to have her. I really wasn't trying to put her down. That's a cool story though Junior. Good for her. But it was her husband. I mean, he's not 'the Paul McCarntney' anymore after you had a couple of his kids and put up with his depression and so forth.

And didn't he break it off with Jane Asher because she wanted a career of her own or something like that? That just got me to thinking that he liked a woman more dedicated to him and his needs than their own.


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I've been smoking dope since 1976 and I've had that ultimatum many a time. Prolonged, excessive use does blank a person out - no lows, but no highs either. It's definately NOT Harold and Kumar. Now I just try to stick to the weekends. Almost all the big smokers I know would love to give it away.
I can understand Heathers view - stoners are not fun people to hang around with. Then again, I do have a problem with women and their "I'll love you if.." attitude, but there you go, you don't always get what you want.
I'm not singling dope out - prolonged excessive use of anything is bad. I don't consider myself stupid, and have many an arguement with myself about why I need to be out of it all the time. What am I hiding from blah blah blah. On the plus side, it turns me into Jimi Hendrix/Bob Dylan for a few hours.
Anyway, I don't know why Paul doesn't do what all men do regarding drugs and girlfriends - lie. It's the law.


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Thanks Kevin. Funnily enough I had the same convo with the g/f last night. I had to concede on the prolonged use bit. If she gives up smoking straights I'll give it a go......and then become a secret weekender. lol


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Thanks Kevin. Funnily enough I had the same convo with the g/f last night. I had to concede on the prolonged use bit. If she gives up smoking straights I'll give it a go......and then become a secret weekender. lol


Go hard! Thursday night is snooker night, which means a good chug tonight. Oh well, whadaya do? Thursday's kind of the weekend, and Monday's sort of qualify as well. Just gotta take that edge off.

Something real sad - I used to lie to my girlfriend that I was going out drinking so I could stay at home and get wrecked unmolested. Must be the only guy that lies about going out so he can stay in.
And if you're reading this honey, it was ANOTHER girlfriend. (I'd never lie to ya baby.)


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I think it's an issue of how passive to be, when to be passive, and about what to be passive.


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Yeah, but i still think he's got a dominant personality and you'd have to be willing to put up with that. Even the other three had to. I think now though he must have mellowed because Heather seems more independent.


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Oh, Paul's definitely the dominant one. I think that a main factor of being a McCartney woman would be that you don't mind playing second fiddle.


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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Kind of insensitive of her, in a way, isn't it? I mean, if he was a fucked up heroin junkie with needles in his armes and a belt in his mouth it wouldn't be but consider this:

Every day for 30 years and Paul is just Paul? That's a lot to ask.


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Oh, Paul's definitely the dominant one. I think that a main factor of being a McCartney woman would be that you don't mind playing second fiddle.



Well, if your married to Paul you do what Paul tells you! That goes without saying!


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So what if Paulie likes his joints? Like I've said before, he was dropping acid before she was born, and it's hard to believe at his age that getting baked from time to time is going to be a gateway to anything else.  Some people like a few drinks, and if he wants to smoke some pot, as long as he doesn't bring it into Japan, who cares? I'd rather have a room full of stoned people laughing and having the munchies than a room full of drunks brawling, crying, etc.
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From the article I get the impression that it wasn't just a few joints from time to time, but pretty much every day all the time. When you smoke like that for that long you don't sit around laughing and eating.  It takes you over. For the other person, its like a part of them is just never there. It must be damn annoying. Sure it's fun when friends are over. But what about Tuesday nights, Sunday mornings, wednesday lunchtime... we're not talking weekend tokers here.
I'd have a problem with someone who had to drink every day.
And telling guys what to do is a girlfriends job. Starts with the shoes (Do you have to wear those trainers EVERY day?) Then it's your hair (That would look nice on you). Your clothes (I got this for you when I was out shopping). Blink and it's your friends, your past-times, your life.
Anyway, I'm off to my Misogamists Annonomous meeting


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Anyway, I'm off to my Misogamists Annonomous meeting


LIAR! ... the meeting was over an hour ago and I didn't see you there!!! LOL!
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LIAR! ... the meeting was over an hour ago and I didn't see you there!!! LOL!


Well duh!! I was annonomous.


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Well duh!! I was annonomous.


But I know your face, mate! ... anyway, the meeting's been boring, ... you've not missed much, the same blah-blah-blah as always, y'know, ... and (strange indeed) no more new members today!!!    
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And telling guys what to do is a girlfriends job. Starts with the shoes (Do you have to wear those trainers EVERY day?) Then it's your hair (That would look nice on you). Your clothes (I got this for you when I was out shopping). Blink and it's your friends, your past-times, your life.


We men have to stand up and protest!
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We men have to stand up and protest!


Yes. I'm not sure the sex/hot dinner thing is a fair trade-off.


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And telling guys what to do is a girlfriends job. Starts with the shoes (Do you have to wear those trainers EVERY day?) Then it's your hair (That would look nice on you). Your clothes (I got this for you when I was out shopping). Blink and it's your friends, your past-times, your life.
Anyway, I'm off to my Misogamists Annonomous meeting


Awww we're not all like that.

It's just, somettimes there is the attraction of a bad boy you think you can reform.. believe me, i know...


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Awww we're not all like that.

It's just, somettimes there is the attraction of a bad boy you think you can reform.. believe me, i know...


All men are bad boys in their hearts.
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Ok.

To me, Heather's statement is about conditional love. "I'll love you if..." I mean, come on! What ever happened to unconditional love?   I agree with her on the no hash issue, but she could have at least encouraged him to go to rehab, no tgive it up in order to marry her. Sometimes this woman bothers the heck out of me.


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In 1984 Paul was arrested in Copenhagen for possetion of cannabis, he was caught smoking the joint. As he and the police left the hotel reception he was jumped on by the press.

A heavily stoned McCartney explained his possition on the drug:

"All I would like to say is I don't think that what I do in the privacy of my own room has any affect on anyone, and is not the business of anyone but myself. Whisky, Glue and Nicotine are all legal and can kill you."

A Reporter asks a question:

"Will you do it again Paul?"

Paul, smiling:

"No."

The Reporter:

"Where did you get the stuff from Paul?"

McCartney begins to laugh:

"Oh come on fellas."

The press begin to laugh.



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From the article I get the impression that it wasn't just a few joints from time to time, but pretty much every day all the time. When you smoke like that for that long you don't sit around laughing and eating.  It takes you over. For the other person, its like a part of them is just never there. It must be damn annoying. Sure it's fun when friends are over. But what about Tuesday nights, Sunday mornings, wednesday lunchtime... we're not talking weekend tokers here.
I'd have a problem with someone who had to drink every day.
And telling guys what to do is a girlfriends job. Starts with the shoes (Do you have to wear those trainers EVERY day?) Then it's your hair (That would look nice on you). Your clothes (I got this for you when I was out shopping). Blink and it's your friends, your past-times, your life.
Anyway, I'm off to my Misogamists Annonomous meeting


Right, but Paul wasn't a slug.  He was creating, touring, etc., not just sitting on a couch, He kept moving.
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What are hello, goodbye and the other me all about?

I'm going to be smoking alot tonight, well I have already.
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The stuff don't do a thing on me. I prefer beer.
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I miss getting stoned, at least once in awhile, not as a lifestyle like it used to be.
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Though I'm not a fan of Heather, I'd have to give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.  If I were going to marry a person in their 60s and they were smoking pot nonstop, and had been for thirty years, I'd worry as much about lung cancer as the fuzzy-headedness.  

Especially something without a filter.  

I don't know if smoking contributed to Linda's death, but it does make you wonder.  You try to eat healthy, vegeterian, etc., but you're destroying your lungs on a daily basis.  Just look at a photo of a smoker's lungs compared to a healthy lung.  

Needless to say, the healthy lung is the one on the left.  Ugh!

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