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According to the Beatles Anomalies List (and myself) it's John Lennon who says 'Fucking Hell' in Hey Jude:
2:52-3:02. 2:58 mostly Listen to an excerpt on this site: http://www.pootle.demon.co.uk/wgo.htm
    This is Mark Lewisohn’s "Recording Sessions" non-specific reference to an "undeleted expletive".

As Paul and John sing "Remember to let her under your skin", John shouts "Got the wrong chord!", (maybe in response to the clunky dead chord at 2:53-2:55) the last word sticks out more than the previous three, and then swears.

If you count out loud 1-2-3-4 in time to the rhythm through this section, you get :-

     1       2     3    4    1    2   3       4    1
P/J: skin                    Then You Be      Gi - In
J:  Got the wrong chord              F**king Hell
Michael Patrick observes that George lets out an unchoreographed "aah" at this point, this may well be him hearing the word "chord".

However, just after "begin" (to make it better) at 3:00 there is some form of edit, which causes a noticeable brightening of the left channel. Maybe there is a mistake in the instrumental here too, which was hidden by the edit?

Expletive also heard as "Need some help", "Ok Now", "Take it out" and many others.

As an alternative, but probably less accurate, explanation wa3dhb@bellatlantic.net adds

I found this bit of info on whitealbum.cjb.net. The person who says "F*cking hell" in Hey Jude is John Perry from the group Grapefruit. He says he came into the studio, and Paul told him to put on headphones and do backup. He did, and the headphones were on very loud, so he shouted "F*cking hell!"

I find this hard to believe, as it doesn’t explain why John Perry "Got the wrong chord!" Maybe he was heckling John for getting the chords wrong. I also find it amazing that people can wander in and out of the studio during a take, and are unprofessional enough to potentially spoil a take by behaving like that. He won’t be invited back! No, I’m not buying that one …

But then I found this:

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One of the Beatles most beloved songs contains the words "F**king hell!" The hidden lyric to "Hey Jude" is just one of the revelations in Geoff Emerick's new book "Here, There and Everywhere: My Life Recording the music of the Beatles". Although "Hey Jude" was one of the rare Beatles tracks that Emerick didn't engineer, he reveals in his book that the mix to the song contains curse by Paul McCartney.
"Just after the start of the third verse, right between the lines 'The minute you let her under your skin / oh, then you begin,' you can clearly hear Paul curse off-mic, saying 'F**king hell!'" John Lennon caught the curse during the playback and said "Paul hit a clunker on the piano and said a naughty word, but I insisted we leave it in, buried just low enough so that it can barely be heard. Most people won't ever spot it… but we'll know it's there."

There have been plenty of "inside story" type books about the Beatles but Emerick gives us the inside story not about the tabloid like going-ons with the band members but instead the inside story of recording of the songs and how the Beatles broke new ground as recording artists. Of course, the book is filled with other interesting tidbits, for example how the album Abbey Road got its name. Many believe it was named in tribute to the EMI recording studios but Emerick gives the real story about the naming of the album.

Emerick relates the story in his book. Here is the basic story: The band had been debating on the name of the album with the general agreement that they would name it "Everest" in honor of the brand of cigarettes that Emerick smoked. The name gave way to the idea of a cover featuring a photo of the four Beatles on Mt Everest, with Paul being particularly keen on making the trip. However, Ringo hated the idea of going off to Tibet and as the deadline for the cover drew closer, John and George grew cold on the idea of traveling that far just to take a photo.

From the book: "'Well, if we're not going to name it Everest and pose for the cover in Tibet, where are we going to go?' a frustrated Paul asked one afternoon.

"John and George Harrison looked flummoxed. Finally, Ringo chirped in.

"'F**k it; let's just step outside and name it Abbey Road,' he joked.

"And that, believe it or not, is how the album got its name. It had nothing to do with how much they loved the studio, despite what the Abbey Road executives have claimed for decades. In point of fact, they hated the place. It was simply because they were unwilling to travel any further than they had to."

Emerick goes on to tell the tale of how they shot the famous album cover photo and when they were proofing the photos, although each member had a different favorite, all of them seemed to be photos of them walking away from Abbey Road. Perhaps consciously or subconsciously the band knew that they would soon walk away from the studio where they recorded most of their music together and more importantly would soon walk away from the Beatles.

Here, There and Everywhere: My Life Recording the music of the Beatles will hit stores on March 16, 2006 and we should have our review of the book up next week. But for now I can tell you that it is filled with insights about the Beatles and their music not found in most books and is a must read for any fan of the fab four. This is the Beatles book I have been waiting years for. The true stories behind the music.
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I guess (well, I know) that you're not the only one who was waiting for this kind of books ... I wonder why people like Geoff (and there's not many who can tell stories from first hand ... and certainly there's not many who are still alive, sadly) haven't written books telling their truth to the world and why they're doing these years ... anyway, good stories for sure.  
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Weird, I always thought it was John...


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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I always thought it was John too, but that story sounds pretty sincere. I wouldnt go to bat with just that info though.

Just another question about the boys that has three or more answers to it.


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I thought it was George who says 'Fucking Hell'.
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It's John. He liked that phrase, he used it in a number of interviews. It's hard to believe it was Paul-he liked the 'nice' image, and it doesn't even sound like him, just like it doesn't sound like him on the 'AAAAAHHHHH' in "A Day In The Life". We should start a topic on that...
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Quoted from juniorsfarm
hard to believe it was Paul it doesn't even sound like him, just like it doesn't sound like him on the 'AAAAAHHHHH' in "A Day In The Life". We should start a topic on that...


George Martin phoned me the other night and he said it was Paul who did the aaahs which is proof enough for me!!


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Quoted from juniorsfarm
It's John. He liked that phrase, he used it in a number of interviews...


Fucking hell isn't a phrase, it's an expletive.
Any of the Beatles could say it in a moment of anger or disappointment.

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Fucking hell isn't a phrase, it's an expletive.
Any of the Beatles could say it in a moment of anger or disappointment.



Um, whatever. And NICE TRY AL.
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Um, whatever.  


What kind of an answer is that?

This forum has a kind of dumbing down edge to it that kind of says oh well what the shi* who cares.

So be it.

But don't expect any decent discussion.

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God, you're splitting hairs now. Phrase, expletive, whatever. Some people DO use certain expressions, curse words, whatever, with more frequency than others. It can become a habit. So if there's proof that this person uses that 'expletive' quite a often, then there's a basis for assuming it's him saying it in this case too.


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Please. Pretty much everyone (unless you're Amish or something) has said "Fucking hell" at SOME point. It sounds like John, but each of the Beatles are just as likely to have said it.


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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Everyone? I don't hear Americans using that expression. I thought it was a mostly English thing. Americans are more likely to say mother f***er or f*** it. But A LOT of people don't really curse and if someone is more prone to cursing then they will. It happens at work. Teachers who curse all the time mess up and curse in front of the kids. I had to stop cursing when I became a teacher because I knew I'd mess up and curse in front of them.I mean, I do curse, just not as frequently. All I was saying was that Duane had a point.


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Err, yeah, I guess that's true. I guess I was thinking from a teenage point of view. But all of the Beatles swore anyway. So it could have been any of them.


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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