I hate to see people going. Can we all take a vow to try to respect each other? Not to needlessly provoke each other? Not to be provoked? Generate some positive energy about something we all love--Beatles music?
I spend time on Television Without Pity forums (particularly, The Shield) and there's a general good vibe respect thing that goes on there. I don't know how it's moderated. But the comments are generally about the show and not about commenters agendae or personalities.
I see a lot of value in DM's forums. I've learned alot both about Beatles lore and Beatles appreciation and Beatles fandom. I think everything comes and goes and probably now's just a lull.
I think one of the problems of the web and forums is there's a tendency to respond immediately (and perhaps bitingly) without taking a deep breath first. I think, too, that the posts usually say more about the poster than the issue that's under discussion. Some of us are silly, some of us are angry, some of us take ourselves too seriously, some of us are pedantic, some of us are working out personal problems, some of us are wonderful, some of us are provocateurs, but all of us, I think, are beatific.
Yeah, the ones here aren't too bad. But this is a Beatles forums and The Beatles music stood for love, peace and understanding. Its kind of funny that us being fans would flame other fans who love beatles music despite the fact we love music that stands against petty fighting like the one displayed on this thread.
I don't think people should leave or give up whenever it gets a little negative. It always passes. If you think the place needs more peace and love, then start spreading some of it. Eventually the vibe will become more positive. Like its done before. That's life. Don't give up so easily.
Juniors good people in my book and I agree with him that Somedudes joke was fucking stupid and in bad taste. At least make a joke somewhat funny.
I've been on this forum for 3 or 4 years and still only have 2700 some posts. The reason people leave and quit posting here is that theres a ton of people that have been here for 6 months and have 5000 posts. What the hell can they be possibly posting about? I guarantee you most of it isnt about the Beatles. Stupid mess and smiley faces only go so far.
I don't like the fighting. I try not to participate in it, but I'll admit I've made some comments, particularly to Wayne and Ydoll (but at least Ydoll had something intelligent to say when he wasn't putting people down.) I don't have anything against anyone here. Believe me, there is nothing that some faceless nobody over the internet can say than is worse than the remarks of my fellow highschoolers.
Really, though. Peace and tolerance I always say.
You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
You're right. I actually agonised over that post last night, and admit to quite a bit of trepidation when logging on this morning. My contribution * wasn't needed and didn't help any * I just edited out a probably here. And JF, you have a Beatle knowledge and catalogue that blows my mind. And your Paul/Heather thing was f*cking profound. It's just the anger thing that bugs me. But lord knows I'm not perfect, and am in no position to preach. Yes, I'm grovelling. I don't think we'll ever be best friends, but if I want to blab on about tolerance then I should but out. I'm not retracting everything I said, but f*ck, if you can tolerate me then I can do the same. When I say "agonised" I meant it. Their ain't many of us old dudes left. Ying and yang and all that.
Thanks PC. I'd gone 15 rounds with people that took me to task before the Bootleg Section was created. I don't like to argue, but if someone pushes, I push back. Thanks for the 'Creating a Monster' comment as well-I find that very insulting and unfair. If you think I've let that go to my head, you are terribly mistaken. I have suggested in the past that Bobber should be the Moderator--that boy has made an enormous contribution to that Forum, and I don't want the keys to the city. I've been kind to everyone on that Forum, even the people that have said mess about me in the past, etc. And it's Duane.
sorry about that misspelt name...it was not intentional...you don't think you have become harsher or less tolerant???????i do but thats just my opinion...i ain't trying to run you off or such..i just want you to be honest and acess........
I agree....I physically cannot be around as much...also, it's just not a lot of fun...just people taking things too seriously, sly, jealous jibing or manipulating/provoking situations to ease their own boredom. I just don't feel much beatle spirit around here anymore....That's no derogatory to the positive posters. I ain't even having a go at the retaliators for i have been guilty of that too. I have adhered to the guidelines of the forum and not tried to moderate too heavily....free speech an all that.....Still without being a drama queen it may be time for me to pass on the flame. As a self labeled yoda of sorts, there is too much bitchin and dark vibes there is. I like sunshine in my life for the dark clouds are not going to dampen my soul.
Splitting hairs on the beatles is one thing, assuming that your personal views are above and better than anybody elses is another.....I just got tired of it. I'm happy how I dig The Beatles and I don't need no forum to re-enforce that. I seriously think Lennon would be pi**ing himself if he read half the crap on here.
Thanks for all interactions, I have gained soo much from this place....I ain't leaving, just gonna put my beatle energy into other areas for a bit (no not another forum.). I'll be keeping in touch with the great friends I have made on here....So it's ciao 4 now amigo's, Happy Beatling!!!! Al, Dmitry if you still need me, I'm here but I think Bobber is the man...fair, informative and helpful.
See you at The Isle of Wight festival if any of you can make it. Peace & Love.
I don't think people should leave or give up whenever it gets a little negative. It always passes. If you think the place needs more peace and love, then start spreading some of it. Eventually the vibe will become more positive. Like its done before. That's life. Don't give up so easily.
I couldn't agree more. And this thread is not very far off-topic... It's called 'Is This The End' and is started by Dirk.
To get back on topic, I keep thinking of Paul's song "Sally G"--in regards to his current situation with HM. I've been down to those bars on Printer's Alley and know what he's singing about.
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