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Kevin
September 2, 2006, 11:25am Report to Moderator

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It still worries me that soon John will be more famous for his John/Yoko thing than his John/Paul/George/Ringo thing.
His post Beatles stuff is rapidly becoming more well known than his Beatles stuff.


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Quoted from Kevin
It still worries me that soon John will be more famous for his John/Yoko thing than his John/Paul/George/Ringo thing.
His post Beatles stuff is rapidly becoming more well known than his Beatles stuff.


How daft can you be? For the next week, go up to whoever and ask who John Lennon was. I'll bet no one says, "Oh yes, he made music and film with Yoko". Are you 12 years old, or what? Good God. Say to someone "Milk and Honey" or ''Abbey Road". Take a pick at what they'll say. And people get banned from this site for being to vitriolic--they should be banned for being mentally challenged, and Kevin, you are the leader of the pack.
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How daft can you be? For the next week, go up to whoever and ask who John Lennon was. I'll bet no one says, "Oh yes, he made music and film with Yoko". Are you 12 years old, or what? Good God. Say to someone "Milk and Honey" or ''Abbey Road". Take a pick at what they'll say. And people get banned from this site for being to vitriolic--they should be banned for being mentally challenged, and Kevin, you are the leader of the pack.


I see you've got your angry pants on again. God bless you Duane. Everytime I read your posts it reminds me how grateful I am to be me.
And please note I said "will be", not "is"
You have a nice day now. And watch that ticker.


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I agree with Kevin. When I ask kids my age who don't listen to oldies about John Lennon, they usually describe him as a long-haired guy with glasses who had a bed-in with a strange little Asian woman.


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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I see you've got your angry pants on again. God bless you Duane. Everytime I read your posts it reminds me how grateful I am to be me.
And please note I said "will be", not "is"
You have a nice day now. And watch that ticker.


It's a ridiculous thread. You should be happy with yourself, it's a beautiful thing, but you've got to let me know what the temperature is like on your planet. I don't think John Lennon runs the risk of being forgotten as a Beatle for the next few months or so. Try not to worry so much.
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this is what we here in the animal kingdom call, "Duane 'o' Pause"...


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I know these stories are boring, but I thought this one's kind of relevant to the conversation. I got a new bunch of second graders today. I havn't said one word to them about the Beatles yet, but I do have a shelf in my classroom with a bunch of Beatles stuff on it. One thing being the figures of the four from the cartoon. Anyway, we're passing the shelf on the way out the door, and one kid goes, "who are they?" So I say,"the Beatles!" And right away another kid says, "which one's John Lennon?" Anyway, I just thought that was interesting.


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you've got to let me know what the temperature is like on your planet.


It's hot. Damn hot. And I think the sky is falling on my head.


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I know these stories are boring, but I thought this one's kind of relevant to the conversation. I got a new bunch of second graders today. I havn't said one word to them about the Beatles yet, but I do have a shelf in my classroom with a bunch of Beatles stuff on it. One thing being the figures of the four from the cartoon. Anyway, we're passing the shelf on the way out the door, and one kid goes, "who are they?" So I say,"the Beatles!" And right away another kid says, "which one's John Lennon?" Anyway, I just thought that was interesting.


It is interesting.
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John wasn't that crazy as a peace activist, because he made some sense with his comments, as well as making great music, with some nonsense as well.  I don't listen to talk radio anymore, because it's fading slowly & it's all a bunch of crap on the left & the right.  Nixon was a great president, which can't be disputed over 30 years later, despite Watergate hanging over his memory for baby boomers.  He was a little paranoid, as well as Strom Thurmond, thinking Lennon was going to disrupt the Republican Convention & cause lots of trouble, since he wasn't Abbie Hoffman.  


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Nixon was a great president, which can't be disputed over 30 years later, despite Watergate hanging over his memory for baby boomers.  


Apparently, it can be disputed:

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Presidential scholars, both liberal and conservative, rank Richard Nixon near the bottom of the list because of the scandals, but most agree that he presents a special problem because his foreign policy and domestic policy successes stand in dramatic contradiction to the corruption of his top aides and Nixon himself.


(source: Wikipedia)


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Richard Nixon's position in historial rankings of US presidents:

Murray-Blessing survey of 846 historians (#34 out of 36)
Chicago Tribune poll 1982 (#34 out of 38
Siena poll 1982 (#28 out of 39)
Siena poll 1990 (#25 out of 40)
Siena poll 1994 (#23 out of 41)
Ridings-McIver poll 1996 (#32 out of 41)
CSPAN poll 1999 (#25 out of 39)
Wall Street Journal poll 2000 (#33 out of 39)
Siena poll 2002 (#26 out of 42)
Wall Street Journal poll 2005 (#32 out of 40)

Still think it can't be disputed?


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I'm not posting this because I'm looking for a confrontation or anything, I'm just trying to point out that your opinions are not always, as you seem to think, facts that can't be disputed.


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You must be reading from the funny papers on Nixon BP, because he was a great president despite Watergate.  Maybe my opinions aren't facts, but neither are yours or other members & it's alright to have them no matter if you think they're wrong.


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