I think you're watching the video from the anthology. That video shows the David frost preformance with the record over it. Watch this version, its the one with the real vocals. You'll notice Paul's scream is way different than the record.
The David Frost one is on Anthology.They're doing live vocals hence the 'Shooby-doo-wahs'.But the music ISN'T live.That's easy to tell because there's a piano on there and nobody's playing piano!
Ok so Paul does the scream here but that doesn't mean it's him on the record.I think they did it to give Lennon time to come in strong on his vocal. The other video is just someone putting the record over the original video.Not of much interest IMHO.
So I STILL say it's John on the record.And it's an overdub.Who says so? Lewisohn : Wednesday 10th July 1968 : "A reduction mix took the song into takes 11 to 13, the latter being deemed best, and onto this John superimposed a venomous lead and, on another vocal track, a second vocal take...In this second overdub John also gave the song a screaming introduction."
I figured as much. I knew it wasn't Paul doing the scream on the record. It sounded too much like John(because it is). I had heard that Paul did the scream on the preformance so that John had enough breath for the beginning vocal.
The only thing live on the David Frost preformance was the vocals and Paul's bass playing.
I think the reason they did it was to promote Hey Jude/Revolution as singles(I think they were singles). If thats not the reason then it was probably to just preform live infront of an audience for the hell of it.
I think together we've answered most of the original questions. Just one clarification. These clips were definitely to promote the single.There was no real audience. For Revolution it was cameras only and for Hey Jude they brought in those people who get up on the stage at the end.It wasn't spontaneous even if they were obviously pleased to do it! The last real audience was I think Candlestick Park.
i wonder if revolution is what inspired dee snider to write we're not gonna take it.....i once had them recorded on a cassette and they do play well together on a compilation...
I think together we've answered most of the original questions.
I think the only question I have left is did I actually read something about how John got the guitar effect on the intro or was it just regular use of distortion? I thought I read that he did something different. But it could have been about some other song. BTW, thanks guys.
I think the only question I have left is did I actually read something about how John got the guitar effect on the intro or was it just regular use of distortion? I thought I read that he did something different. But it could have been about some other song. BTW, thanks guys.
Two distorted lead guitars were put through the recording console.It completely overloaded the channel and produced the fuzz sound.
Incidentally I watched the video again on Anthology.You can hear the Lennon scream begin just before Paul screams, but the camera is on Paul.I think this is done on purpose because they were worried that Lennon would come in wrong and would give the game away that they were more or less miming even if their vocals were picked up. I also watched Hey Jude where it's even more obvious since Paul is double-tracked for most of the song.That is to say he's singing with himself!
I wonder why they felt the need to do that anyway. These songs could be played live pretty well. I mean, there were no special effects and stuff like on other songs. I guess it was acceptable back then. Now people who do that get ragged on because they come off as looking like they don't have the talent to play live. I know it was different in the sixties though so I'm sure there are many reasons for it.
Two distorted lead guitars were put through the recording console.It completely overloaded the channel and produced the fuzz sound.
Incidentally I watched the video again on Anthology.You can hear the Lennon scream begin just before Paul screams, but the camera is on Paul.I think this is done on purpose because they were worried that Lennon would come in wrong and would give the game away that they were more or less miming even if their vocals were picked up. I also watched Hey Jude where it's even more obvious since Paul is double-tracked for most of the song.That is to say he's singing with himself!
I think they just put the record with the live version of Revolution for the anthology video. The link I provided before shows Paul screaming without Lennon's screaming. Plus the vocals sound live, they sound different to be the record version. Like I said, this is the live version with live vocals and live bass playing lol.
I wonder why they felt the need to do that anyway. These songs could be played live pretty well. I mean, there were no special effects and stuff like on other songs. I guess it was acceptable back then. Now people who do that get ragged on because they come off as looking like they don't have the talent to play live. I know it was different in the sixties though so I'm sure there are many reasons for it.
No, there was a miming ban on British TV but the Beatles knew they couldn't reproduce their studio sound, so they had to pretend to be as live as possible. Nobody can do a live version of Revolution with the strength of that distorted guitar and the Beatles knew it.Sixties or no sixties.
I think they just put the record with the live version of Revolution for the anthology video. The link I provided before shows Paul screaming without Lennon's screaming. Plus the vocals sound live, they sound different to be the record version. Like I said, this is the live version with live vocals and live bass playing lol.
No, no, no.Listen to Anthology, Lennon's scream comes in just before.You hear the live vocals above the recorded version, or maybe one track of the recorded version, burt the fabs were taking no chances.
On the promo videos I have you do not hear the recorded sceam at all. You also hear a lot of noise from Paul that you don't hear on Anthology. They definitely cleaned it up and added something. I'd prefer to hear it as it was. I also think they could have done a fine job reproducing Revolution live. It didn't have to sound exactly like the record. That's why live is so great. Also, why the live bass playing then? They should have just sucked it up and done it all live.
No, there was a miming ban on British TV but the Beatles knew they couldn't reproduce their studio sound, so they had to pretend to be as live as possible. Nobody can do a live version of Revolution with the strength of that distorted guitar and the Beatles knew it.Sixties or no sixties.
Bang on Zipp. And lets face it, even now its rare for a band to go on TV to promote a new single and risk it by playing live.
On the promo videos I have you do not hear the recorded sceam at all. You also hear a lot of noise from Paul that you don't hear on Anthology. They definitely cleaned it up and added something. I'd prefer to hear it as it was. I also think they could have done a fine job reproducing Revolution live. It didn't have to sound exactly like the record. That's why live is so great. Also, why the live bass playing then? They should have just sucked it up and done it all live.
Well I'll have another listen but if you have Lewisohn's Chronicle then the filming of the Revolution and Hey Jude clips is fascinating reading. They took place in Twickenham Film Studios on Wednesday 4th September.David Frost went there to present them and pretend they were on his show live.(The show actually went out the following Sunday!). Lewisohn says : "The two clips for Revolution were largely identical to each other but had some lighting differences.These were exciting versions,the Beatles ADDING A NEW VOCAL TRACK TO THE PRE-RECORDED EMI BACKING TRACK, blending the fast style of vocals from the B-side version with the lyrics from the slow White Album recording."
He doesn't mention Paul's bass being recorded live. Where do you have that information from?
(The scream was an overdub added when Lennon double tracked his vocal. Paul McCartney performed the scream on the 'David Frost Show' semi-live television performance, because Lennon could not deliver the scream and catch his breath again in time to launch into the first verse.)
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