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Mairi
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The whole thing is rather suspect. First of all, these tapes are being released by Heather and Peter Cox- both people who have grudges against Paul.
Secondly, as I said before, isn't it strange that these tapes only surfaced during the divorce proceedings?
Lastly, if Linda was so unhappy she wouldn't have stayed with Paul for thirty years.

But I agree with Sandra... where are Heather (Linda's), Mary, Stella, and James? Why don't they defend their father?


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Just my thoughts:
It may well be that the revelations on the tape are not that sensational that they would have caused much of a stir outside the context of this divorce. It's only coupled with heather's allegations that they will have any real newsworthiness. Also Mr Cox would also have appeared rather mean spirited releasing them without all the current goings-on to give him an excuse. He has seen his moment. (and their cash value must have skyrocketted)
And unfortunately, many woman stay in unhappy/abusive relationships. Who knows the real dynamics of their relationship.
Thec McCartney Camp strategy seems to be to maintain a respectful silence. And to be perceived as dragging his kids into the arena will not help Pauls image much.
After Linda's death Paul remarried with what seems rathewr indecent haste.And we've had the whole discussion about Paul's apparent indifference at the news of John's death.
How many times have people said "Of course Paul was in love", "of course Paul was in shock" "of course Paul isn't violent or abusive."
The truth is we don't know. Being a Beatle doesn't make you a saint. Paul (like John) is a human, and like all of us flawed. We just don't know.
A criticism often levelled at Pauls music is that he never bares his soul. He hides behind pretty words. A Macca fan, more than others, can't say that being a fan and listening to his music gives you some insight into the man's soul.


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But I agree with Sandra... where are Heather (Linda's), Mary, Stella, and James? Why don't they defend their father?


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PAUL McCartney's daughter Stella threatened to KILL her hated stepmother in a blazing bust-up with her dad, we can reveal.

The fashion designer flew into a terrifying rage after hearing that Heather claimed Macca hit her mother Linda.

Pregnant Stella, 34, had to be restrained by the former Beatle as she screamed: "I'm going to kill that b****! I can't believe what she's doing! I'm going to kill her!'"


PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: BEA'S UNHAPPY BIRTHDAY
It was clear she didn't mean it literally but she was beside herself after reading what Heather had said about Linda.

"I told you she was a b****," she screamed. "Why did you marry her? She's been a manipulative cow from day one. The cow won't be happy until she destroys all of us — and our memories of our mother'."

Last week we revealed how Heather was the violent one in the collapsed marriage, smashing up rooms, hurling missiles and making threats against her husband.

Now we can reveal the full extent of Stella's bitter hatred of the woman who replaced her beloved mother. Our source revealed how:


THE two women thrashed out an astonishing HATE PACT after the marriage so they would never have to talk to each other.

STELLA is so disgusted by the blonde ex-model she compared her to a pile of VOMIT, calling her morning sickness "Heathering".

ONLY weeks away from giving birth, Stella is under so much strain she has HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, putting her pregnancy in jeopardy, and Sir Paul, 64, is drinking heavily.

HIS marriage was in tatters TEN MONTHS ago — and when a desperate Sir Paul suggested marriage counselling, 38-year-old Heather REFUSED.
Stella's explosive rant happened during a meeting with her dad to discuss the divorce. "Paul kept pleading with her to calm down—but she couldn't," said a source close to the family.

"She wanted to go straight to see Heather, but he said, ‘You can't go anywhere in that state'. He had to stand in front of the door and stop her. He was pleading with her. It was a heartbreaking scene."

And it was the culmination of a resentment that had been bubbling since the day Macca announced he was going to marry the ex-model.

Our source told how a few weeks after the 2002 wedding, the rock legend got Stella and Heather together on a secret night out in London.

"He was adamant they should be one big happy family — he didn't realise how wrong he could be.

"From what Stella said to friends she told her stepmum she was a money-grabbing b**** and Heather hissed at her to mind her own business.

"The upshot of a very frosty evening was, ‘You keep out of my way, I'll keep out of yours'. It broke Paul's heart."

Stella's hatred only deepened as she watched the marriage crumble.

When she had morning sickness she gave it a nickname. "She called it Heathering. That's how bad it is," said our source.

"Heather is just vomit as far as she's concerned. But what she's doing to Stella's dad is really getting to her. Her blood pressure is very high, not something you need in the latter stages of a pregnancy."

Our source told how the marriage was in trouble from the start of this year.

"They were arguing over anything and Heather was taking it out on her staff. Once she reduced their gardener to tears because she didn't like the way he'd cut the flowers.

"Paul would spend more and more time at Stella's and would be constantly on the phone to her when he was at home.

"He would say, ‘I just don't know what to do any more. I love her but she's become this horrible woman.'

"Stella would get so upset listening to her dad she once said, ‘I don't want to bring my child into this world with her as a grandmother. She's a b**** from hell'."

In May, Macca suggested marriage counselling in a last-ditch attempt to save their marriage, said our source. But she flatly refused. "She told him he was the problem and if he sorted himself out it would all be fine," said our source. "This was the last straw for Paul who started drinking heavily. Stella grew more and more concerned.

"It was at this point Stella noticed Heather would carry a black Prada bag with her and Paul said she'd always leave it in the middle of the table. They now believe it had a tape recorder in it." Stella never saw them fighting — but did once walk in after they had a bust-up over Heather's spending.

A source close to Stella said: "She told me Paul was close to tears.

"Heather had been spending far too much on clothes and they had a huge row with Paul telling her to cut down.

"She would buy bags of outfits and wear dresses only once. It was like she had won the lottery. Paul really loved her and would do anything for her but it was just take, take, take."

The one good thing from the marriage collapse is that it has drawn the McCartneys together again as a family. Macca has seen much more of Linda's daughter Heather, 43, who stayed away from his Peasmarsh home throughout his new marriage.

"It was a huge surprise for loads of staff when Heather turned up at the house to see her stepdad," said our source.

"She'd not visited for four years. The same applies to Mary and James, his other kids.

"Paul would have to go to see them rather than them coming home. In the last few months that's changed. They're united against Heather."


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And what source is THIS from?


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hmmm. it sounds a bit tabloid-ish to me.


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Oh well, it all shows that paul should learn not to follow his di*k in the future.
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Found this on the net on a The Sun newspaper website (OK, I know it's the Sun!):

http://www.contactmusic.com/ne.....%20mccartney_1012242


LINDA CO-WRITER UNIMPRESSED BY McCARTNEY    

LATEST: SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY is cold and has "dead eyes" according to the owner of audio tapes recorded by the former BEATLE's late wife LINDA. PETER COX co-wrote the book LINDA MCCARTNEY'S HOME COOKING in 1989 and spent many days at the couple's English country estate where he recorded 20 hours of Linda discussing her ideas and life. According to British newspaper the Daily Mirror, the tapes contain intimate details of Linda's marriage to MCCartney which the former BEATLE wants kept out of the public domain in light of his bitter divorce battle with HEATHER MILLS. Cox was shaken by his first meeting with the LET IT BE star and never warmed to him. He says, "Paul and I went for a walk around the garden. It was all very strange. He said to me, 'If I gave you a million pounds would you eat a hamburger?' "I said no and he accused me of lying. What does that say about him - that he thinks everyone has a price? There was always this question mark with Paul, as if he was constantly thinking, 'What do you want from me? I am Paul MCCartney and you want something from me and I'm going to find out what it is.' "That attitude was always there and I found it most depressing. I didn't warm to Paul. There was an awful coldness about him. His eyes were deader than any I had ever seen." Cox has assured MCCartney's lawyers that he will not divulge the contents of the tapes.


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methinks he had the hots for Linda and was jealous of Paul.


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Heather Mills Reportedly Claims McCartney Abused First Wife
9 Days Ago - October 23, 2006 by exposay.com
Featuring Heather Mills and Paul McCartney

The divorce plot just thickens and thickens with more claims of abuse. Heather Mills has now reportedly claimed Paul McCartney used to hit his first wife Linda.

The ex-model intends to ask the former Beatles' staff to testify in court that he was violent to her during their marriage, and claims they saw him treat Linda the same way.

A source told Britain's Mail on Sunday newspaper, "She told me that he did to Linda what he did to her that Linda had also suffered abuse. She told me that staff of Paul's told her that Linda had also suffered abuse."

However, Sir Paul's former publicity man Geoff Baker struck back, saying, "It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. Everyone knows that Paul and Linda had one of the happiest marriages in showbiz."

The claims follow the publication of divorce court papers which were leaked last week, alleging Paul was abusive to Heather during their marriage. But it has also been claimed that it was in fact Heather who was violent, and once threw a bottle of tomato ketchup at Paul's head in September 2003.

A source told Britain's News of the World newspaper, "It was Heather who caused all the rows by constantly nagging Paul, and they turned violent. The housekeeper would have to come in and clean up afterwards. After the ketchup battle there were marks where a bottle of ketchup had been thrown and landed just behind where Paul usually sits. It must have just missed him."


Geoff was FIRED by Paul and he's still sticking up for him. Now you KNOW Heather is lying.


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Geoff was FIRED by Paul and he's still sticking up for him. Now you KNOW Heather is lying.


I can't agree with you Mairi. We don't know how well Geoff knew the intimate goings on of the McCartneys relationship nor his motives for speaking up.
We just don't know.
(the reason I'm trying to be so rational about this is that I spent a lot time belittling Michael Jackson fans for saying "of course" their man was innocent with no more basis in fact than what they knew as fans. Kharma prohibits me from doing the same for our Paul)


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Well, you may be right on that aspect, but then what does Heather know herself?


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Mairi's on a mission. Go for it, Mairi!
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What? LOL


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