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Unfortunatley the court case of Heather Vs. Paul has turned somewhat ugly with allegations of drug and alcohol abuse along with verbal and physical tormenting also. This does nothing but tarnish an incredible music career of solo and Beatle work that "Paul" has given us! You would think that Heather would take a generous settlement and be on her way without dreadging up all this muck? Thoughts about this situation would be appreciated. |
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In my opinion the only abuse Paul is guilty of is the Frog chorus!!
I think Heather is gradually showing her true colours while Paul has handled himself with total dignity. |
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I bet Paul did not abuse Heather, but I also bet he wishe's he had now.....lol Seriously, I think it's a ploy typically used in divorces to make on partener look bad. If I was the judge presisding over this my ruling would be, Ms. Mills gets no money for her self, full visitation with the child, and a brand new prosthetic leg.....case dissmissed! |
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I'm only a dedicated Beatles fan but I know the allegations of abuse by Paul are false. The only thing that's true is that he smokes pot & has been for over 40 years. She will only be a very small part of Beatles history unlike Yoko, Linda & Patti. His marriage to his soon to be ex-wife was the biggest mistake of McCartney's life & he will lose some money, but not too much for him, along with his reputation slightly bruised. |
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I have a feeling this divorce is going to get uglier. |
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I have a feeling this divorce is going to get uglier.
Sadly, with the millions at stake how could it end otherwise |
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It's probably going to be much uglier than even the fans expect it to be Paulsluv, but Macca will survive with his image slightly bruised a bit. |
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Maybe like Heather's face, wayne. |
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If Heather has tapes as she claims, it sounds like she set him up. |
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| October 25, 2006, 12:56am |
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I believe our "Paul" is a bit of a control freak which would explain some of his bizzare behaviour. Prehaps when Heather knew it was going sour she decided to cover herself with these tapes? You know Paul is just going to fly to Scotlad somewhere and sit on a farm while contemplating where it all went wrong. |
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Paul will bounce back quickly she however will not, Paul has never been my favorite but I know he didn't do the things she is saying he did. She just wants more money and hopefully she'll get none. Besides Paul's already gone through one very messy, painful and public divorce in 1970 when he divorced The Beatles.
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Very ugly if this is true:
MACCA GAGS LINDA TAPES
20 hours of her most intimate thoughts on her marriage to Macca.. could they now become the focus of his divorce battle with Heather? SIR Paul McCartney yesterday gagged tapes of intimate revelations made by his first wife Linda. Linda, who died in 1998, documented extraordinary details of their 29-year marriage in 15 tapes now held by her friend Peter Cox. It is understood they shed an alternative light on her "golden" relationship with Sir Paul, 64. Amid fears they were to be made public and could feature in his divorce from Heather Mills, Macca, won an undertaling they would stay secret. An insider said: "They're dynamite." The 15 audio tapes are believed to cast an alternative light on the former Beatle’s 29-year marriage to Linda, always understood to be one of showbiz’s strongest. They contain such intimate disclosures that yesterday Macca, 64, stopped Linda’s close friend Peter Cox making them public with the threat of court action. But their existence is bound to haunt the star’s bitter divorce wrangle with his second wife Heather, 38 – and could even become the centrepiece of their battle. An insider said: “They’re dynamite. Linda begins to unburden her troubles and the tapes become an audio diary. “It’s a private and emotional confessional She vents feelings which she’d not dared share with even her closest loved ones. She found the tapes cathartic.” Amid fears that Mr Cox might make the tapes public, Sir Paul’s management company MPLCommunications threatened to take him to the High Court unless he agreed in writing not to do so. The threat was issued by top law firm Sheridans and sent to Mr Cox’s representative Rodney Hylton-Potts, a leading London lawyer. Sheridans demanded an undertaking, which was granted, not to disclose the contents of the tapes by 4pm yesterday. A source revealed: “Mr Cox has been silenced and the tapes remain a secret... for now.” Last night Heather’s spokesman said she was aware of the tapes but would not comment. However a friend of the former model said: “These tapes may well be crucial in any divorce proceedings. At the moment there’s a lot of claim and counter claim.” Linda co-wrote with fellow vegetarian Mr Cox Linda McCartney’s Home Cooking, published in 1989. During months of planning for the book Linda kept an audio record of her recipes and ideas, sending updates to Mr Cox. But as their friendship blossomed, she also began to share insights into her marriage. Mr Cox spent “hours and hours” in the McCartney’s kitchen in Peasmarsh, East Sussex, as Linda disclosed the day-to-day intimacies of her family life. Today Mr Cox, a literary publisher and former chief executive of the Vegetarian Society, has the only copies of the tapes which have been a closely kept secret for 18 years. If sub-poenaed by Heather, he will appear in court as a witness in her divorce. Despite Mr Cox’s strong friendship with Linda, he had an icy relationship with Sir Paul. The insider said: “Peter never got on with Paul. They rubbed each other up the wrong way. There was no love lost between them. Even after Linda’s death, there was no thawing of relations. Peter was rankled he wasn’t invited to Linda’s funeral. He’s never forgiven Paul for that.” Heather was furious when Macca filed for divorce in July, citing her unreasonable behaviour. In leaked documents she accused her estranged husband of assaulting her on at least four occasions – once slashing her arm with a broken wine glass – being regularly drunk and taking illegal drugs. Sir Paul denied her claims and said he will “vigorously” defend himself in court. Heather, married for four years, is said to be seeking at least 100million of Sir Paul’s 825million fortune. The couple originally vowed to keep their divorce amicable for the sake of their daughter Beatrice, who is three tomorrow. But the split has become increasingly poisonous. Heather’s spokesman said: “We stress again that she stands by everything that’s been filed on her behalf.” |
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I can only speek for myself, but I always had bad feeling about Heather. Gold digger is the expression that crosses my mind. |
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I'm sure it's only a coincidence that these tapes surfaced during the divorce proceedings  Bullshit. |
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I don't know why you seem to be attacking me for some reason with a sarcastic comment lennonlegend. I don't believe Paul did anything to her in the first place, she did it to him & she's only after his money. I knew his second marriage wouldn't last 5 years before the wedding & I was right. It's too bad you can't check my other posts about it on another website, but it was going down like the Titanic before their first date. |
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I heard some rumors that on one of Linda's tapes she confesses to having a crush on Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits in the 60's & wanted to marry him instead of Macca. |
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I don't know why you seem to be attacking me for some reason with a sarcastic comment lennonlegend. I don't believe Paul did anything to her in the first place, she did it to him & she's only after his money. I knew his second marriage wouldn't last 5 years before the wedding & I was right. It's too bad you can't check my other posts about it on another website, but it was going down like the Titanic before their first date.
Why can't i check your other posts about it on another website? hmmm, maybe because your accounts been deleted, Along with your posts, for being such an annoying a**hole yah? |
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Quit it please... Wayne said in another topic he wants to stop the arguing, so give him a chance. |
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I don't care if none of you believe me or not, if you can't find my posts on other websites, then I guess you're bigger idiots than I thought, like yourself BP. You can go to Classic Rock Forums to find out for yourself & I knew it wouldn't last because it was doomed from the start. |
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I don't care if none of you believe me or not, if you can't find my posts on other websites, then I guess you're bigger idiots than I thought, like yourself BP.
OK, now I'm confused. What did I do this time? |
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If you say so somedude 210 & I don't blame anybody for anything, but I do have strong opinions. I knew Paul's marriage to his second wife wouldn't last too long & his image will be bruised a bit after the divorce but he will survive thankfully. |
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No, seriously: what were you calling me an idiot for? I thought we were going to try to get along, but I could be wrong...
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This is what you get when you marry a groupie and a gold digger. Where are Paul's kids during all of this? Shouldn't they be coming to his defense or something? I mean, he can't really say anything because of the pending court case, but I'm sure they could put in a few words on his behalf. Maybe he wants everyone to be quiet or something. |
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Paul is only human, so we can't really say "Their is no way Paul did those things!". As huge admirer of Paul, I hate to say it but I won't really count out the fact that he may have done those things to Heather. She always looked like a b**** to me, so maybe she deserved it. Sour relationships can really bring out the nastiest sides of people.
Besides that, I'm very very curious as to what Linda said in those tapes. Makes me a little nervous that maybe their marriage wasn't all that it seemed to be. Its got to be pretty big if Paul doesn't want them getting to the public. Paul and Linda never really showed much affection towards each other in public. I think Heather and Paul showed more affection than Paul and Linda. I could be wrong, but thats what I've noticed. Maybe Linda wasn't as happy as Paul was, who knows. I'm really curious... |
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This is what you get when you marry a groupie and a gold digger. Where are Paul's kids during all of this? Shouldn't they be coming to his defense or something? I mean, he can't really say anything because of the pending court case, but I'm sure they could put in a few words on his behalf. Maybe he wants everyone to be quiet or something.
Saying nothing and ignoring is a way to handle these things. Let the other one shout and wait for mistakes. More people should do that. Paul and Linda had a long relationship. They undoubtedly had their fights and periods of misunderstanding and all that. There's nothing new. |
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The whole thing is rather suspect. First of all, these tapes are being released by Heather and Peter Cox- both people who have grudges against Paul. Secondly, as I said before, isn't it strange that these tapes only surfaced during the divorce proceedings? Lastly, if Linda was so unhappy she wouldn't have stayed with Paul for thirty years.
But I agree with Sandra... where are Heather (Linda's), Mary, Stella, and James? Why don't they defend their father? |
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Just my thoughts: It may well be that the revelations on the tape are not that sensational that they would have caused much of a stir outside the context of this divorce. It's only coupled with heather's allegations that they will have any real newsworthiness. Also Mr Cox would also have appeared rather mean spirited releasing them without all the current goings-on to give him an excuse. He has seen his moment. (and their cash value must have skyrocketted) And unfortunately, many woman stay in unhappy/abusive relationships. Who knows the real dynamics of their relationship. Thec McCartney Camp strategy seems to be to maintain a respectful silence. And to be perceived as dragging his kids into the arena will not help Pauls image much. After Linda's death Paul remarried with what seems rathewr indecent haste.And we've had the whole discussion about Paul's apparent indifference at the news of John's death. How many times have people said "Of course Paul was in love", "of course Paul was in shock" "of course Paul isn't violent or abusive." The truth is we don't know. Being a Beatle doesn't make you a saint. Paul (like John) is a human, and like all of us flawed. We just don't know. A criticism often levelled at Pauls music is that he never bares his soul. He hides behind pretty words. A Macca fan, more than others, can't say that being a fan and listening to his music gives you some insight into the man's soul. |
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But I agree with Sandra... where are Heather (Linda's), Mary, Stella, and James? Why don't they defend their father?
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PAUL McCartney's daughter Stella threatened to KILL her hated stepmother in a blazing bust-up with her dad, we can reveal.
The fashion designer flew into a terrifying rage after hearing that Heather claimed Macca hit her mother Linda.
Pregnant Stella, 34, had to be restrained by the former Beatle as she screamed: "I'm going to kill that b****! I can't believe what she's doing! I'm going to kill her!'"
PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: BEA'S UNHAPPY BIRTHDAY It was clear she didn't mean it literally but she was beside herself after reading what Heather had said about Linda.
"I told you she was a b****," she screamed. "Why did you marry her? She's been a manipulative cow from day one. The cow won't be happy until she destroys all of us — and our memories of our mother'."
Last week we revealed how Heather was the violent one in the collapsed marriage, smashing up rooms, hurling missiles and making threats against her husband.
Now we can reveal the full extent of Stella's bitter hatred of the woman who replaced her beloved mother. Our source revealed how:
THE two women thrashed out an astonishing HATE PACT after the marriage so they would never have to talk to each other.
STELLA is so disgusted by the blonde ex-model she compared her to a pile of VOMIT, calling her morning sickness "Heathering".
ONLY weeks away from giving birth, Stella is under so much strain she has HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, putting her pregnancy in jeopardy, and Sir Paul, 64, is drinking heavily.
HIS marriage was in tatters TEN MONTHS ago — and when a desperate Sir Paul suggested marriage counselling, 38-year-old Heather REFUSED. Stella's explosive rant happened during a meeting with her dad to discuss the divorce. "Paul kept pleading with her to calm down—but she couldn't," said a source close to the family.
"She wanted to go straight to see Heather, but he said, ‘You can't go anywhere in that state'. He had to stand in front of the door and stop her. He was pleading with her. It was a heartbreaking scene."
And it was the culmination of a resentment that had been bubbling since the day Macca announced he was going to marry the ex-model.
Our source told how a few weeks after the 2002 wedding, the rock legend got Stella and Heather together on a secret night out in London.
"He was adamant they should be one big happy family — he didn't realise how wrong he could be.
"From what Stella said to friends she told her stepmum she was a money-grabbing b**** and Heather hissed at her to mind her own business.
"The upshot of a very frosty evening was, ‘You keep out of my way, I'll keep out of yours'. It broke Paul's heart."
Stella's hatred only deepened as she watched the marriage crumble.
When she had morning sickness she gave it a nickname. "She called it Heathering. That's how bad it is," said our source.
"Heather is just vomit as far as she's concerned. But what she's doing to Stella's dad is really getting to her. Her blood pressure is very high, not something you need in the latter stages of a pregnancy."
Our source told how the marriage was in trouble from the start of this year.
"They were arguing over anything and Heather was taking it out on her staff. Once she reduced their gardener to tears because she didn't like the way he'd cut the flowers.
"Paul would spend more and more time at Stella's and would be constantly on the phone to her when he was at home.
"He would say, ‘I just don't know what to do any more. I love her but she's become this horrible woman.'
"Stella would get so upset listening to her dad she once said, ‘I don't want to bring my child into this world with her as a grandmother. She's a b**** from hell'."
In May, Macca suggested marriage counselling in a last-ditch attempt to save their marriage, said our source. But she flatly refused. "She told him he was the problem and if he sorted himself out it would all be fine," said our source. "This was the last straw for Paul who started drinking heavily. Stella grew more and more concerned.
"It was at this point Stella noticed Heather would carry a black Prada bag with her and Paul said she'd always leave it in the middle of the table. They now believe it had a tape recorder in it." Stella never saw them fighting — but did once walk in after they had a bust-up over Heather's spending.
A source close to Stella said: "She told me Paul was close to tears.
"Heather had been spending far too much on clothes and they had a huge row with Paul telling her to cut down.
"She would buy bags of outfits and wear dresses only once. It was like she had won the lottery. Paul really loved her and would do anything for her but it was just take, take, take."
The one good thing from the marriage collapse is that it has drawn the McCartneys together again as a family. Macca has seen much more of Linda's daughter Heather, 43, who stayed away from his Peasmarsh home throughout his new marriage.
"It was a huge surprise for loads of staff when Heather turned up at the house to see her stepdad," said our source.
"She'd not visited for four years. The same applies to Mary and James, his other kids.
"Paul would have to go to see them rather than them coming home. In the last few months that's changed. They're united against Heather."
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And what source is THIS from? |
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hmmm. it sounds a bit tabloid-ish to me. |
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Found this on the net on a The Sun newspaper website (OK, I know it's the Sun!): http://www.contactmusic.com/ne.....%20mccartney_1012242LINDA CO-WRITER UNIMPRESSED BY McCARTNEY LATEST: SIR PAUL MCCARTNEY is cold and has "dead eyes" according to the owner of audio tapes recorded by the former BEATLE's late wife LINDA. PETER COX co-wrote the book LINDA MCCARTNEY'S HOME COOKING in 1989 and spent many days at the couple's English country estate where he recorded 20 hours of Linda discussing her ideas and life. According to British newspaper the Daily Mirror, the tapes contain intimate details of Linda's marriage to MCCartney which the former BEATLE wants kept out of the public domain in light of his bitter divorce battle with HEATHER MILLS. Cox was shaken by his first meeting with the LET IT BE star and never warmed to him. He says, "Paul and I went for a walk around the garden. It was all very strange. He said to me, 'If I gave you a million pounds would you eat a hamburger?' "I said no and he accused me of lying. What does that say about him - that he thinks everyone has a price? There was always this question mark with Paul, as if he was constantly thinking, 'What do you want from me? I am Paul MCCartney and you want something from me and I'm going to find out what it is.' "That attitude was always there and I found it most depressing. I didn't warm to Paul. There was an awful coldness about him. His eyes were deader than any I had ever seen." Cox has assured MCCartney's lawyers that he will not divulge the contents of the tapes. |
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