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lennonlegend
November 23, 2006, 7:28pm Report to Moderator
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So some forgotten actor trying to do stand up had a melt down.....boo-phuckin-hoo. I bet his residuals from Sienfeld keeps him comfortable. All this falls in to the I couldn't care less about the next anorexic actress, Nichole Ritchie,  Paris whaterver her name is and Lyndsay Blowhan, Tom and Kate, Anna Nicoles baby's father............ if you keep stirring it, IT WILL NEVER GO AWAY FOR GODS SAKE! If these people would drop off the face of the earth all they would do would be to put some paparazzi and tabloid writers out of work, oh and some fat old women sitting under a hair dryer at a hair salon nothing to read or gossip over leaving them with  nothing to read or talk about. Lock them all in a room with all the drugs and food they can stand and let's see who the last standing is. If they don't make , Oh well ! It's not like they have to get up and and go but their a$$e's everyday just for enough money to keep the power on and supper on the table.
Bitter?????????? Maybe, but I am sick of all these Hollywood loosers tearbagging about one thing or another ! Grow up and be productive members of society, not what ingorant people make rich by feeding in on this sh!t !


Yes, i agree with you here

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If you watch the video, the two black hecklers call him a "cracker'' which is almost the equivilant to the N word. It just doesn't have the past the N word has. The hecklers weren't considered racist...and "Cracker" is a racist term. n.


Which is precisely the point  People of all ethnic groups are capable of prejudice. It is (unfortunately) part of our human makeup. Prejudice becomes really dangerous when it allows one group to dominate another.  A black can call a white all the names he wants, but it is unlikely that he will ever be able to inflict the degradations that whites have historically (and to a degree maybe still do) inflicted on black people.  This is why the connotations of a white person using the n word are vastly different from when a black person uses it, and why society (rightly IMO) treats it differently.

As for the German thing, it was only in my parent’s generation that the German people inflicted their monstrous regime upon Europe. Tens of millions of men woman and children died as a direct result of the actions of Germans (not just Nazi Party members). I think you may have to live with the nazi jibes just a little bit longer yet.

History is more than just words in books.  We have grown fat and wealthy on the actions of our forebearers.  The consequences of history - both good and bad- permeate through our entire lives. You can’t just turn it off when it doesn’t suit.


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Germans are never called nazi's over here. They're usually called 'Germans', because that's what they are.
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Quoted from Kevin

As for the German thing, it was only in my parent’s generation that the German people inflicted their monstrous regime upon Europe. Tens of millions of men woman and children died as a direct result of the actions of Germans (not just Nazi Party members). I think you may have to live with the nazi jibes just a little bit longer yet.


Pity. If only people weren't murdered when trying to rebel against  said regime, I remember my Grand Dad used to tell us stories from that time and how they rather got with it, than to get killed. There wasn't much you could do about it other than to keep quiet and hope for the war to end.

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History is more than just words in books.  We have grown fat and wealthy on the actions of our forebearers.  The consequences of history - both good and bad- permeate through our entire lives. You can’t just turn it off when it doesn’t suit.


Correct. Unfortunately that's what certain current political headmen do. What's history about, other than to learn from it and make things better. People tend to forget their own history (if they know something about it) but point their finger at others.

As said before - it's a wide range and human kind obviously isn't willing to draw conclusions from all our history. Depressing.


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Pity. If only people weren't murdered when trying to rebel against  said regime, I remember my Grand Dad used to tell us stories from that time and how they rather got with it, than to get killed. There wasn't much you could do about it other than to keep quiet and hope for the war to end.

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I thought about this at lunch. Most (maybe all) of Germanies anti-jewish laws weren't any different from the anti-black laws in the Southern States in the US or South Africa or Australia. Nor was it the only state to build an empire and then inflict misery and death on its inhabitants. (Belgium managed to take out thirty million Congolese and noone mentions that.)  
I think the reasons the German regime is singled out are complex. It seems that it's not what you do, but who you do it to, is a real issue.


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mm, many also forget about the japanese during the same time period and what they did to china and manchuria (now Korea). i mean, there are some things that they did that go leap and bounds above Germany. read some stuff about the rape of nanking, they were much more public than germany in their treatment of non-japanese.

maybe we dont hear about the japanese and their inhumane treatments because we weren't very accepting towards asians anyway, or we had ancestors from germany.


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I don't believe there's many nations that can say they're innocent throughout history. The people from Tibet maybe, although they were quite though before they turned to Buddhism.
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I don't believe there's many nations that can say they're innocent throughout history. The people from Tibet maybe, although they were quite though before they turned to Buddhism.


The Chinese claim that they overthrew a despotic fuedal regime that favoured the few over the many. They proclaim it as a liberation, not an invasion. Sound familiar?


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