Especially this: 'Stills' felt Young wasn't giving his all to the project, submitting, title track excluded, lightweight tunes Stills suspected Young wrote on the way to the studio.' Funny. Although, I can tell you that Stills' contribution to the album is much weaker than Young's. What's sadder, as the article shows, is that this almost became a CSNY album! Harumph!!!
Especially this: 'Stills' felt Young wasn't giving his all to the project, submitting, title track excluded, lightweight tunes Stills suspected Young wrote on the way to the studio.' Funny. Although, I can tell you that Stills' contribution to the album is much weaker than Young's. What's sadder, as the article shows, is that this almost became a CSNY album! Harumph!!!
i'm sure that the buzz at the time was that Young only did the album in an attempt to help bolster Still's flagging solo career, so no wonder his heart wasn't in it.
i'm sure that the buzz at the time was that Young only did the album in an attempt to help bolster Still's flagging solo career, so no wonder his heart wasn't in it.
If Stills had stuck with Crosby and Nash then Stills wouldn't have needed it.
'Wasted a lot of time, and a lot of money!' as Stills says on the Allies live CSN album of 1983 about CSN not being together, in the intro to Nash's respectable Wasted On The Way.
If Stills had stuck with Crosby and Nash then Stills wouldn't have needed it.
'Wasted a lot of time, and a lot of money!' as Stills says on the Allies live CSN album of 1983 about CSN not being together, in the intro to Nash's respectable Wasted On The Way.
True. But Still's wanted respect as a solo artist I guess. He's a bit of a Gary Barlow (Take That) figure - main driving force of a successful band (Buffalo Springfield), the one most tipped to make it solo, but his career crashes and burns (apart from Love The One You're With commercially at least) and is usurped by what had been regarded as a more minor light (Robbie Williams/Neil Young). That MUST have really wrankled (sp?) Stills, and that he could "only" find real success by once again submerging himself into a group effort couldn't have helped. I think solo success meant an awful lot to Stills. He must have had many sleepless nights listening to After The Goldrush, Harvest, Comes A Time, Rust Never Sleeps.....
True. But Still's wanted respect as a solo artist I guess. He's a bit of a Gary Barlow (Take That) figure - main driving force of a successful band (Buffalo Springfield), the one most tipped to make it solo, but his career crashes and burns (apart from Love The One You're With commercially at least) and is usurped by what had been regarded as a more minor light (Robbie Williams/Neil Young). That MUST have really wrankled (sp?) Stills, and that he could "only" find real success by once again submerging himself into a group effort. I think solo success meant an awful lot to Stills. He must have had many sleepless nights listening to After The Goldrush, Harvest, Comes A Time, Rust Never Sleeps.....
Agreed. Anyway, to change the focus a little again; I think America were a good take on CSNY, and perhaps underrated too.
Agreed. Anyway, to change the focus a little again; I think America were a good take on CSNY, and perhaps underrated too.
Yeah. For a few years there they were massive. A Horse with No Name IS Neil Young. They're neither here nor there for me ( a bit too sunny-West Coast-vibe for my tastes.) There's a nice story about Roger McGuin (The Byrds) driving in his car and Tom Petty's American Girl coming on the radio unannounced. He was convinced it was his goodself (it is VERY McGuinnish) and dumbfounded rang his manager and asked him when he recorded that track because he couldn't remember it!
I suppose The Eagles are the take on CSNY. Seems CSNY did a big thing for American music. And hardly capitalized on their own combined success itself! Big disappointment for one of the world's bigger CSN fans, myself.
I suppose The Eagles are the take on CSNY. Seems CSNY did a big thing for American music. And hardly capitalized on their own combined success itself! Big disappointment for one of the world's bigger CSN fans, myself.
Can't you trace the West Coast Sound line back via The Eagles-CSNY-The Byrds? Personally I think the latter should get the bulk of the credit (not to downplay CSNY's importance in any way ) By the way, do you say Ciznee ?(we used to)
At the end of the Woodstock DVD, they play a version of CSNY's Woodstock version which is definitely different from the Deja Vu one. I've got the 4-box set of CSN (which is fab, by the way), and it says in the notes that Woodstock on that is a different version. It isn't! I expected the DVD version. So annoying!
Can't you trace the West Coast Sound line back via The Eagles-CSNY-The Byrds? Personally I think the latter should get the bulk of the credit (not to downplay CSNY's importance in any way ) By the way, do you say Ciznee ?(we used to)
Fact is, my knowledge isn't as good as yours! Yes, The Byrds. Mostly McGuinn. But, partly Crosby too presumably. And how he took that into CSN. But I meant to say that CSNY were a big influence on The Eagles. Surely true?
If anyone's interested in CSNY radio, then LAUNCHcast CSNY radio seem to play a lot of their stuff consistently, without wandering to other related artists that much, and the other ones they play are fairly similar to CSNY. Unlike other radio stations they have that play unrelated artists.
I spent way too much in the seventies sitting in a corner stoned reading The NME Rock Encyclopedia ( and in those pre-punk days there were few enough bands that they could include everything.) And remember Pete Frame's famous convulated rock family trees? I picked my way through everyone of those tricky bastards.
Can't you trace the West Coast Sound line back via The Eagles-CSNY-The Byrds? Personally I think the latter should get the bulk of the credit (not to downplay CSNY's importance in any way ) [...]
Well, yes, I can, thinking about it. But I always thought that CSNY were the real 'nexus' of it, so to speak.
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Yes, The Byrds. Mostly McGuinn. But, partly Crosby too presumably. And how he took that into CSN. But I meant to say that CSNY were a big influence on The Eagles. Surely true?
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