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Sandra
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Some news on that stupid movie with Lindsay Lohan. Instead of making a crap movie about his murderer, why don't they try making a movie the celebrates Lennon's life? Something that's not sensational or tabloidish. God forbid they put any effort into that.  

New Film Chapter 27 branded an insult to John Lennon
January 25, 2007

'Chapter 27' - the new film about John Lennon's assassination - has been branded an insult to the music legend's memory.

J.P. Schaefer's movie - which depicts the former Beatle's murder in 1980 by deranged fan Mark David Chapman - premiered at the Sundance festival on Tuesday (23.01.07) after allegedly being rejected by other film festivals.

Fox News reporter Roger Friedman saw the movie and has blasted Schaefer for tarnishing Lennon's memory.

Friedman said: "J.P. Schaefer has managed to kill Lennon again. He's also made a boring, un-releasable movie that no one will ever see. Most of the audience struggled to remain awake during the film's lethargic 90 minutes."

Friedman brands Jared Leto's performance as Chapman as "inert", claiming the "once promising" actor "plays Chapman as a blob in tinted sunglasses".

He also accuses 'Chapter 27' of plagiarising J.D. Salinger's novel 'The Catcher in the Rye', from which the movie takes its name.

Chapman was carrying the 1951 book - which tackles such themes as the portrayal of sexuality, teenage angst and alienation - when he was arrested immediately after shooting Lennon and referred to the 27th chapter when police interviewed him.

Lindsay Lohan also appears in the film and Friedman claims she is wasted as a Beatles fan with a minor role in the film.

He said: "She's better off in rehab than wasting her talents on this junk.


Jared Leto as Chapman. I actually thought it was him for a second. Yuck.


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March 9, 2007, 6:14am Report to Moderator

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I looked at this once!

Glanceing over it reminded me of what Chapman said!

To me--(To me)--He should not be given a 2nd thought!

This only promotes Chapman!

Much like the Hanaball & others!

Sad we live in a world were some --Have to praise these people!

I did not like what Duhmer did & to make a movie on him--just shows other sick minds what he did & how to get away with parts!

I will not suport this Chapman film!

This is the last I give it a though--I wipe my hands of this  movie & reveiws!


I'm just sitting here --watching the wheels go round!
I realy love to watch them roll!
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I think it's wrong to glorify what he did with a movie.


You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
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... or a book?
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^ Yeah.
I've just got given a copy of the film - so I'll see what it's like .. although this era of John's life  is one I tend to not divulge in


Whats the matter lads? Blue Meanies?

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I think this is the most horrific thing anybody could make a movie about.  

  I mean... one retard screwed up the whole world and people just think, oh that sounds like a great movie!

Personally I never ever want to see it. I don't want to remember him like that... and I sure in h-e-l-l don't want to give that "thing" recognition!



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This is disgusting how anybody can want to make this kind
of thing! >:  It makes me so angry.
THis is to do with nothing about remembeing Lennon & i
dn't even want to think what happened on that awful december
night.
I wasen't even born when Lennon was taken from us but his music & words
have always helped me in life!
I spit on the makers!!



It's been a Hard Days Night & i've been working like a dog!
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I agree with those who don't like the idea of this movie. I'll vote with my wallet and not see it. Best thing I can do.


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For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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I was so angry when I found out they made a movie about John's killer!! If i watched it (which I never ever will!) I'd be very tempted to shoot the TV screen! what in the hell was the nutjob that thought of the movie thinking?! I think all copies of the movie should be burnt and never spoken of again!!  

*calms down*


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I haven't seen this movie, but some of the comments here leave me perplexed. Are you slamming it because it's a poor movie (which by all accounts it is), or because it's about the murderer of John Lennon? It appears to be the latter. Would you all be so angry if this was a made for TV documentary on Discovery? There is no reason why a film about Mark Chapman should not be made, just because he murdered one of your hero's.

Raise your hand if you've never seen a movie about any of these:

Ted Bundy
John Wayne Gacy
Charles Manson
Jeffrey Dahmer
David Berkowitz
The Boston Strangler
Bonnie & Clyde
Billy The Kid
Jack The Ripper
Lee Harvey Oswald/Jack Ruby

These were all real killers, and they killed real people too! But with the exception of Lee Harvey Oswald/Jack Ruby, they killed ordinary people, people we've never heard of. So is it OK to make a movie about them? Those people didn't matter so much? They were all someone's father, mother, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, just like Lennon.

So this is a bad movie because someone dared to make one about the death of your hero?


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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I'll try to answer your question, Meanie! For me, it depends on what the focus of the movie is. If it's focusing on the killer, I feel it glamorizes the murderer. I think the last thing I want is more sickos in my society hoping to get their 15 minutes of fame, so I deliberately boycott these type of movies. I also boycott movies where the principal theme is a woman in jeopardy-- she's stalked, a rape victim, kidnapped, whatever. I feel it perpetuates the myth that women are helpless creatures that need rescuing. Anyone can be taken advantage of, but if a man were playing this role, it would be humiliating, whereas I think for many people seeing a woman in the same situation is titilating. So-- boycott!

That said, of your list, I did see the "Bonnie & Clyde" movie ages ago, with Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. I still recall the ending-- very powerful, and our villains did get their comeuppance (and how!). I've never seen movies on the other killers, and I don't buy books about them, even though the ones on Ted Bundy and Charles Manson (in particular) are supposed to be very well written and fascinating reads. I met Ann Rule (author of the Ted Bundy book "The Stranger Beside Me"), and she actually started her book as a quest to understand this man she knew and worked with. Like, how could he do this? So in this case it's definitely a psychological exploration. My sister finds these engrossing and eats them up. I personally don't have the stomach for it.

I'd be more inclined to see Chapter 27 if I knew it focused on the mindset of the killer. But... let's face it. I will never go. I just find dwelling on crazy people useless and upsetting.

Did this help explain my aversion at all? Cheers.


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For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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Is their anyone else who really couldn't give a damn either way?

Don't give me that 'the whole world was screwed up' bit, that's bollocks.
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I watched this film via torrents, and one of the reasons I did was because I understood it to be based on fact and transcripts of interviews with the killer, which it was. It follows the killer arriving in New York on December 5 1980 up until the fateful night of the 8th. Mainly I wanted to watch it because I wanted some insight and understanding about what happened. I thought it was important, as one affected like anyone here by John's death, to  put that senseless act into some kind of perspective for me personally. The acting wasn't the best I've seen but the point of the movie in my opinion wasn't for entertainment but rather an historical overview. In the end I thought it was well done. When it was over I felt sad and angry about what happened and not by the movie's existence. Even though I know quite a bit about the moments leading up to the killing, this movie offered a chronological view into that time.

Strange Fact:
There is a guy that plays a brief role as John Lennon outside the Dakota...damn near spitting image of him...the actor's name is Mark Chapman...weird.
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Could you give me a link to the torrent please rook? I'd be interested in seeing this film.
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I can honestly say I've never seen any of the movie Blue Meanie mentioned. I think it's wrong to profit from the horrible deaths of others. Last year or so the Canadian media was up in arms because they made a movie about Karla Holmolka (rapist and serial killer) and the movie flopped because no one wanted to see a film about such unspeakable atrocities.


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