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Pink Floyd! Of course!  

This is a question , its like LENNON or McCARTNEY ,CANTONA or BEST , RUSH or LED ZEPP, CLIVE BARKER or STEPHEN KING, CPT. KIRK or CPT PICARD ......
I cant answer this question GREEN APPLE sorry .
    

But, thanks for responding anyway, Mr. Kite. Your point is very good. Wondered with such a short intro if anyone would much. Too tired right now to say why I think so. But I will. Basically to say that Pink Floyd are the true architects of rock. As I've said before.

I  think of PINK FLOYD as more of a rock band as such, and YES as prog rock
But then again FLOYD are allways classed as the ultimate prog rock band  
No i can`t decide , i love both bands too much to put one above the other  

Really though! Probably Pink Floyd ... they are a little more pop or call it "mainstream" in some of their albums or songs ... Yes have some gems too!!!

Pink Floyd were more rock. With Gilmour's blues-based guitar playing. Harder than Howe. Maybe you mean Syd Barrett's Floyd was more pop, Raxo. That's for sure. Yes were poppy at times; 90125 album, Tormato, and the awful Open Your Eyes (some good moments though).

PINK FLOYD POP
RAXO My friend, i never heard P.floyd decribed as POP

Where you`ve been anyway RAXO ive  missed you ?

PINK FLOYD POP  

YES POP  
Ive never heard YES decribed as POP  
I seem to be repeating myself..........

Quoted from mr kite

YES POP  
Ive never heard YES decribed as POP  
I seem to be repeating myself..........

That's how I hear some of their music. I've heard all their stuff. Their eighties sound period was poppyish.

Oh no GREEN APPLE you`ve mentioned that horrible word  EIGHTIES  
Yes even YES took a dive in the [gulp] EIGHTIES
The reason i listened to FLOYD and YES because they were not mainstream bands or pop bands, as i got older i stoped listening to the charts and just bought albums ,i suppoose that sounds a bit narrow minded  
  

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PINK FLOYD POP
RAXO My friend, i never heard P.floyd decribed as POP

Where you`ve been anyway RAXO ive  missed you ?

PINK FLOYD POP  

Thanks, mr kite! Well, I live just here!!!

I said "they are a little more pop or call it "mainstream" in some of their albums or songs" ... and by pop (corrected as "mainstream" if you want it) I was thinking in the charts and popularity or popular music, more defined as that, if you understand me ... there are tracks on some of their albums (and not just a few) that sound as a non-progresive band ... and Wish You Were Here is mainstream to me, for example (sometimes it reminds me of The Eagles so imagine!!!) ... anyway, a great epic ballad!!!

They are one of my all time favourite bands!

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[...] as i got older i stop listening to the charts and just bought albums ,i suppoose that sounds a bit narrow minded  
  

Not if you're talking about the UK charts. I liked it in the late eighties/early nineties when the black music thing got big. Since that, don't care about the charts. Albums are where it's at. That's where most of the best (rock) music is.

Which to answer first erm....
No i didnt like the 80s ,uk music it was awful chart stuff anyway ,Wish you were here RAXO sounds like the EAGLES  
Wish you were here is my[floyd] favorite album i hate to think its pop  

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[...]Wish you were here RAXO sounds like the EAGLES  
Wish you were here is my[floyd] favorite album i hate to think its pop  

Please, I said that it "sometimes it reminds me of The Eagles so imagine" and I called it mainstream, you know ... I like it too   but it's not far from what most people think pop is, if you understand what I mean: the guitars and atmosphere of the ballad!  

YES by a million miles for me. Ive been burned out on Floyd since college and that was 15 years ago.

Pink Floyd. Anytime of second, minute, hour, day or life.

It's a tough one as both bands are so completely different. But my two favourite Yes albums (The Yes Album, Fragile) come higher up the list of my all time favourite albums than do Pink Floyd (Wish You Were Here). So it has to be Yes.

The Eagles?

Yes

Quoted from 632

Yes

Don't mince your words then!

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Don't mince your words then!

Quoted from 632

Yes

No!  

NO!! Never heard the Band???

Quoted from 632

NO!! Never heard the Band???

I went through two long periods of being into Yes. I now find their music claustrophobic, while the lyrics of Anderson just bore me. Sometimes, all Anderson would have needed was to tweak the words a little to get them meaningful. Some of his words are meaningful, but most of them are not.

Pink Floyd struggled after Barrett left to get the new sound. About five years to create DSOTM. After that, they stayed with music which was both architecturally sophisticated and lyrically very clever. Yes, on the other hand, had so many changes in sound which also resulted in weak albums (Big Generator, Tormato, Open Your Eyes).

Sure, Wakeman and Howe are outstanding musicians, and oher Yes members have been very good. Pink Floyd may not have such instrumental abilities, but they still make excellent music. And every concept album Floyd has made has been structurally and lyrically consistent. Compare that to Yes's concept stuff. The music of Close To The Edge is excellent, but Anderson spoiled it with meaningless lyrics. Floyd's music can get me drawn into the subject matter of the album (The Wall, and it's strong emotions for example).

Put it this way, some years back there was a Yes tribute album. None of those artists on it I'd ever heard of, and even Steve Howe contributed to it! What's he doing on a Yes tribute album!? Yes just never achieved the same legendary status as Pink Floyd. I think the music of Pink Floyd will stand the test of time much better than Yes.

Meaningless lyrics  
JON ANDERSONs song writing is unique, theres nobody writes like he does, as to say its meaningless , i think that when you listen to his songs you can make your own thoughts to them .
TURN OF THE CENTURY  for example ,is about an artist who makes a bust of his wife [lover ] and she dies leaving him the memory of her beauty in the bust   and it reminds him of the days when they were together dancing watching the seasons change
Or it could be somthing compleatly different
Anyway its a truly beautiful song in which i never tire of hearing    

pink floyd all the way- one of my other fave bands after the beatles  

Quoted from mr kite

Meaningless lyrics  
JON ANDERSONs song writing is unique, theres nobody writes like he does, as to say its meaningless , i think that when you listen to his songs you can make your own thoughts to them .
TURN OF THE CENTURY  for example ,is about an artist who makes a bust of his wife [lover ] and she dies leaving him the memory of her beauty in the bust   and it reminds him of the days when they were together dancing watching the seasons change
Or it could be somthing compleatly different
Anyway its a truly beautiful song in which i never tire of hearing    

True, you can make the lyrics what you want. I got so tired of it.

Turn Of The Century is probably the best love song ever written! And I also would never tire of it. And, yes, Going For The One is a great album. I'm not against Yes, but I think Pink Floyd are better at art rock. That's what I'm saying. Also, Wondrous Stories is very good. And a number of others too.

I know your not anti- YES GREEN APPLE  
Im just a big fan of JON ANDERSON im just defending his corner  
I love FLOYD and will defend them with just as much passion
Heres a thought for you to perussle[is that how you spelt it]
Would FLOYD been as sucsessful if SYD had stayed in the band ?      

Pink Floyd for me.  Syd Barrett's songs were one of a kind.  And the band rose to the occasion after he left.  Roger Waters is a great lyricist, Dave Gilmour a great melody-man and incredible guitar player (on par with the best of Yes).  And you don't get that annoying Jon Anderson post-hippie lyrics.  

Actually one of my favorite songs by Yes is on their first album (I think)--a cover of Paul Simon's "America."   It's a shame they didn't do more covers of classic material.  Love to hear their take on Dylan or even the Beatles.  Jon Anderson does have one of the amazing voices of rock.  And all the guys in the band are amazing.  I'm a big fan of the bass player Chris Squire.  His "Fish out of Water" album is pretty damn good.  

Yes' lyrics were never a problem for me--being nonsense.  It was the pretense of meaning that irritated me.  But I do agree with other commenters that Yes and other classic prog rock bands deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as much as Iggy and the Stooges, Black Sabbath and Patti Smith (who can be just as pretentious in another way).  

Quoted from mr kite

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Heres a thought for you to perussle[is that how you spelt it]
Would FLOYD been as sucsessful if SYD had stayed in the band ?      

A fascinating question! And one I have pondered many times before. I would say - no. Various questions surrounding that. If Syd had stayed without the drug problem, would Gilmour have joined? Would we have been without both his amazing guitar AND vocals!? Syd might well have continued to dominate musically, and it just wouldn't have gravitated to DSOTM, as far as I can see. Maybe Waters wouldn't have seen the chance to come so forward in the band. Even if Roger had come up with the idea for DSOTM, do you think Syd could have handled the vocals and guitar like Gilmour? I don't think so. If they had stayed as a five-piece, maybe it would have been too many contributors to the band. And it might have developed in different ways. I think Floyd wouldn't have been so successful with Syd. Sounds like you agree with me from your tone.


P.S. - Peruse  

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Actually one of my favorite songs by Yes is on their first album (I think)--a cover of Paul Simon's "America."  

It's not on the first album, Yes. It was recorded later when Rick Wakeman was on keyboards I'm sure I once read on the internet. There's certainly a picture of Rick in the sleeve for the Yesterdays compilation album Yesterdays on which it appears, released in 1975. But, the album, at least on vinyl, doesn't seem to make it clear that Rick is on keyboards for it. It seems to have the earlier Yes sound though. It's a hard-edged interpretation of the song, knocking spots I think off S&G's original.

Quoted from GreenApple

Yes, on the other hand, had so many changes in sound which also resulted in weak albums (Big Generator, Tormato, Open Your Eyes).

Big Generator kicked major a**. As a matter of fact, 'I'm Running' might be my favorite tune they ever did.

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Sure, Wakeman and Howe are outstanding musicians, and oher Yes members have been very good.

Yeah like Chris Squire (maybe the greatest rock bassist ever), Bill Bruford (one of the greatest rock/jazz drummers ever), Trevor Rabin, Geoff Downes, Trevor Horn, and Alan White.

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And every concept album Floyd has made has been structurally and lyrically consistent.

"cough",,,"cough",,,,The Final Cut.

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Put it this way, some years back there was a Yes tribute album. None of those artists on it I'd ever heard of, and even Steve Howe contributed to it! What's he doing on a Yes tribute album!? Yes just never achieved the same legendary status as Pink Floyd. I think the music of Pink Floyd will stand the test of time much better than Yes.

I agree with this 100%. YES will never achieve the fame that Floyd did or has. Its no secret that I like YES better and even though 'Fragile' is in my top ten albums of all time, it will reach the heights that 'Dark Side' and 'The Wall' did. Even though both bands are catorgorized under PROG, I feel that YES is definitive prog while Floyd sways from it more often than not, but thats ok. I guess i've just been Floyded to death and I doubt i'll ever recover.

As for the tribute album, besides Steve Morse, i've never heard of any of the other people either. Strange.

Quoted from GreenApple

It's not on the first album, Yes. It was recorded later when Rick Wakeman was on keyboards I'm sure I once read on the internet. There's certainly a picture of Rick in the sleeve for the Yesterdays compilation album Yesterdays on which it appears, released in 1975. But, the album, at least on vinyl, doesn't seem to make it clear that Rick is on keyboards for it. It seems to have the earlier Yes sound though. It's a hard-edged interpretation of the song, knocking spots I think off S&G's original.

America was recorded during early Fragile sessions, so Rick is on it, the only song he plays on, on Yeserdays, and only a single in The States. Steve Howe had also replaced Peter Banks by this time. America doesn't appear on a regular album, only the compilation 'Yesterdays', and the U.S. version of 'The Ultimate Yes'. It was also on a compilation: 'The New Age of Atlantic', 1972.

Quoted from tkitna

Big Generator kicked major a**.

!!!! Really? It's not a patch on the 90125 it was based on! Some poor and even embarassing songs on that one!

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"cough",,,"cough",,,,The Final Cut.

Yes, you are right. The one exception! This was largely made up of songs rejected from The Wall. Sounds like some kind of follow-up to The Wall. But, The Wall is so complete, there was just no need. Waters whines and moans excessively throughout, and the whole thing hangs together badly.

I completely agree with you GREEN APPLE on the SYD debate   [that ends that debate]

ADAMZERO , post hippie lyrics . Same as above answer to meaningless  
YES have covered a BEATLE song on there first album ,EVERY LITTLE THING and its quite good
JON ANDERSON is a BEATLE fan  
  

havent really listened to Yes, maybe I need to... Pink Floyd