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I think it's episode 7.


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... after all, we're not talking about the Anthology Book (which seems to be a summary of what the DVDs show us) and Yoko "entered the room" at the end of the story so she's there but not more time than what she deserved, in my opinion ... she had not any role in the group but her influence on John so how much time do you think she deserved or how much time the others should have been talking about her?

... their breakup: they didn't "fight" so much (or as much as some people seem to think ) untill Paul sued the others (December 1970) ... they were doing different things by 1969 (among many more: Bed-in, Ringo's film, solo singles/albums, playing/producing other people, even some concerts ... ) so the breakup is shown as it was remembered by them during that time -well, more or less, to be sincere  - ... and their story ends in 1970 and so does the Anthology (apart from their reunion) ... tho some people would have liked to hear some of their personal opinions more than actual facts!


Yoko didn't play a role? I would like to think so, but I think it's not like that. Because Yoko was everywhere where John was and because she had a huge influence on John and his way of thinking, she surely had a role. And I do think there were some serious 'fights' and estrangement (sp?) since Magical Mystery Tour and later the recording of The White Album and Let It Be.
Actually, I don't see the point of Paul's behaviour. That's the way he is and we can't deny that he had a very serious part in the development of The Beatles. I seem to remember that George had quite a different look on things, compared to Paul and Ringo.
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In the Beatlemania documantary on BBC recently someone (and damned if I can remember who) said their was obvious tension in the studio between John and paul as early as the Rubber Soul Sessions.


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In the Beatlemania documantary on BBC recently someone (and damned if I can remember who) said their was obvious tension in the studio between John and paul as early as the Rubber Soul Sessions.


Can you imagine being cooped upin a studio for as long as they were without their being some tension? Doesn't suprise me at all. In fact I'd begin to think that they really were superhuman otherwise.


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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Quoted from Bobber

Yoko didn't play a role? I would like to think so, but I think it's not like that. Because Yoko was everywhere where John was and because she had a huge influence on John and his way of thinking, she surely had a role. [...]


These were my words:
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Sorry, but I don't remember so many references to drugs to "think they only took fun drugs" ... and if you're trying to tell the story of four people before they became a famous group or even a group and untill their breakup focusing on what they did: albums, performances and tours, films, etc ... you won't probably have time and space for everything ... and less for details ... but we've got some anecdotes!

... after all, we're not talking about the Anthology Book (which seems to be a summary of what the DVDs show us) and Yoko "entered the room" at the end of the story so she's there but not more time than what she deserved, in my opinion ... she had not any role in the group but her influence on John so how much time do you think she deserved or how much time the others should have been talking about her?
[...]


When they talked about music they couldn't say anything about her: she had not a role in the group (playing an instrument or taking decisions as a manager, for example ... that's what I meant  ) ... and they didn't talked a lot about her because they tried to give equal time (more or less) to each year and there were lots of things (and music) to talk about by late 1968-1969 so I understand the short time talking about the Yoko thing ... what more they could say about ?  

After all, I was talking about if the time they were talking about Yoko was what she deserved or not   ...

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And I do think there were some serious 'fights' and estrangement (sp?) since Magical Mystery Tour and later the recording of The White Album and Let It Be.
[...]


These were my words:
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... their breakup: they didn't "fight" so much (or as much as some people seem to think ) untill Paul sued the others (December 1970) ... they were doing different things by 1969 (among many more: Bed-in, Ringo's film, solo singles/albums, playing/producing other people, even some concerts ... ) so the breakup is shown as it was remembered by them during that time -well, more or less, to be sincere  - ... and their story ends in 1970 and so does the Anthology (apart from their reunion) ... tho some people would have liked to hear some of their personal opinions more than actual facts!


Some serious 'fights'? I don't deny that   ... but I think that no so much as some people seem to think ... they (Ringo said it, for example) had a lot of good moments during the Get Back sessions (surely their most tense sessions) and the four of them were working only 17 days!!! 7 days at Twickenham and 10 at Apple   ... it seems that George left because of John's behaviour (and a bitter argument they two had) more than because his discussion with Paul, for example (that was almost nothing, I've got to say) ... I think that all those tons of fights in that era is another myth   ... surely they were some but not so many ...
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In the Beatlemania documantary on BBC recently someone (and damned if I can remember who) said their was obvious tension in the studio between John and paul as early as the Rubber Soul Sessions.

Quoted from BlueMeanie

Can you imagine being cooped upin a studio for as long as they were without their being some tension? Doesn't suprise me at all. In fact I'd begin to think that they really were superhuman otherwise.



By the way, Kevin and BlueMeanie, do you think they should talk about su-posed tension in the studio through almost all of their studio years (Rubber Soul on-wars  ) if they surely couldn't remember it because of the tons of fun and joy that surely they'd got too since Rubber Soul?   ... much much more, for sure  ...
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George mentioned the tension this way: "We could argue a lot amongst ourselves, but we were really very close to one another." The Beatles had silly arguments and fights throughout their history. Like, John and George throwing food on each other in Hamburg, or Paul and George having a standoff for 2 hours about who was going to drive the car. I'm sure they bickered in the studio as well, but the overall impression for all of them, including George, seems to be, "We were very close to each other."

I was also impressed by how much smiling they did even in the Get Back sessions. It seems they were really making an effort to get along, for the good of the team, until they realized they didn't have a team any more. I'd put John's withdrawl from the group as the leading factor. He needed to balance Paul, as Paul could be an overwhelming personality. But when he abdicated, the balance was thrown off and the Beatles became dysfunctional. This has got to be a lesson in the subtleties of chemistry or something...


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Can you imagine being cooped upin a studio for as long as they were without their being some tension? Doesn't suprise me at all. In fact I'd begin to think that they really were superhuman otherwise.


Actually, when you think of it most of rock's great partnerships were built on tension - the Everley Brothers, Jagger and Richards, Waters and Gilmour, Hall and oates, Tears For Fears, Michael and Ridgley (   ).


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I agree, harihead ...
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I was also impressed by how much smiling they did even in the Get Back sessions. [...]

As long as there were music in the air they felt close to each other   ... even in Twickenham (where it was su-posed to be the coldest sessions of all) they were humorose ... few moments perhaps ... Two Of Us or George introducing I Me Mine to Ringo, for example ... but the four of them spent only a week there ...

Things were much better in Apple   ... George smiled a lot  ... and John too ... for example during their performance of Besame Mucho  ... and the mood was different when George lent Ringo a hand with he chords of Octopus's Garden (John went to the drums and Paul entered smiling ... surprized too) ... I know that they are only few moments and they were selected for the film but I've heard that the best footage was not used ... some of the footage for the "new" clip of Get Back shows us that there's more happy footage unseen ... do you recognize everybody on this one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JQOATAW-ZqE

... and uploaded (7 Mb) here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/25615802/Get_Back.wmv.html

... after all George+Paul "affair" was included!  


I like this:
John's Let It "A", Let It "B" (from the Get Back sessions)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f1ELhUa5bQY
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Actually, when you think of it most of rock's great partnerships were built on tension - the Everley Brothers, Jagger and Richards, Waters and Gilmour, Hall and oates, Tears For Fears, Michael and Ridgley (   ).


Oh no, you're not gonna put smilies in your posts, are you?
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Now that's funny.


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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I liked the Anthology.
Here they are talking if "All You Need Is Love" was written specific for the TV broadcast or was it just one of the songs that they had for an album
and they are not quite sure. (And John is not there to resolve the thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef-6zix0YNg
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it was written with the tv show in mind. the album (sgt pepper) was just released a couple of weeks before the broadcast and there was no new album coming up.


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And it's 40 years ago today since they sang it on live broadcast around the world!!



HAPPY 40TH BIRTHDAY TO THE WHITE ALBUM! you say its your birthday!
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Very cool, Andy Smith! We still all need love, that's for sure.

I think the Anthology series is a class act. I wasn't a Beatles fan at the time and it... made me into one.   So it obviously worked! Cheers.


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