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Bobber
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I'm having a discussion elsewhere about Ringo's and Pete Best's time on stage with The Beatles. I'm stating that Pete spent more time on stage with The Beatles than Ringo did. Just look at all the Hamburg and Cavern hours (plus lunchtime sessions). That went on somewhat in late '62 and early '63, but since then it's just the half an hour routine sets that The Beatles were playing. But I seem to be the only one who thinks that Pete spent more time on stage with The Beatles. What do you think?
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Interesting topic. It would involve math, which I'm too lazy to do. But roughly:

6 hrs/day for each Hamburg day. If you want to get really granular, you'd have to add more for the nights they had to stay longer, but there is no real good record of actual hours played, as far as I know.

1/2 hour for each official Beatles tour after 64 or so. I think in 63 they still were doing 45-min sets and 2-hour sets along with shorter ones, depending on the venue. For the Helen S tour, I think it was 15 minutes each appearance. Then you have to figure how many houses per night. O_o

EVERYTHING ELSE. Holy cow, the tours these guys did. I think you'd need a record of Brian's appt book. The Beatles did 3 appearances a day sometimes. Before "Love Me Do", it was mostly live stage appearances. Afterwards, would you add in television appearances as "on stage"? If yes, would you include the mimed ones, since they weren't really playing? So many angles to consider. An interesting problem.


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For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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I would include only live on stage concerts. Don't forget Ringo did a few sessions in Hamburg too.
My gut feeling is that Bobber is right, but lordy, some anoraks going to  have to sit down and work this out. Mines at the cleaners at the mo.


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I think Bobber's right. But I'm not going to sit down and try to prove it!


I just want you to reassure him - talk to him, make him see the error of his ways. Then I'll hit him.
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Bobber's caught an interesting topic!
This is something i've never thought about and i'm considering
you may be right!



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Hmmmmmm....... would be cool to know!
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Whenever I got some spare time on my hands, I will sit down and count with Mark Lewisohn...
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Quoted from Bobber
Whenever I got some spare time on my hands, I will sit down and count with Mark Lewisohn...


Better to try to contact Mr. L. I bet he doesn't have the exact figures but he'll have a very good idea. Basically, if he doesn't know then nobody does.


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I'm up to December 1960 and so far Pete is in the lead.
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Whahoo! We should start a pool.


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

For all I know, Ringo might be a yogi disguised as a drummer! - George Harrison
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Pete 234 - Ringo 100



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Quoted from Bobber
I'm up to December 1960 and so far Pete is in the lead.




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Does anybody know how long the lunchtime concert in the Cavern usually took?
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Wow, I just read this somewhere-- I think it was in Cyn's book John. She's talking about how the girls would get made up and rush over to be there by 1, but then they had to get back by... ??? (To be at their desks for the afternoon's work). I'd say probably no more than an hour, maybe 45 minutes actually on stage? I'll have to get that book out of the library again and check.


All you've got to do is choose love.  That's how I live it now.  I learned a long time ago, I can feed the birds in my garden.  I can't feed them all. -- Ringo Starr, Rolling Stone magazine, May 2007

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I reckon 45 minutes. No more.


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